Will Corbyn's Lies Be Seen Through ?

[Khandro]

He gained votes by lying about student fees and has made a U-turn on Brexit, despite being in lifelong opposition to the UE another reason many Labour voters gave him their endorsement. How can anyone trust and continue to vote for him?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/847204/Brexit-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Leave-seat-St-Helens-North-bbc-radio-4-video-single-market?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

[ichkeria]

But most of the young voters who voted for him are opposed to Brexit. As indeed are the majority of Labour voters.
So you can see it as a cynical attempt at catch-up - he might lose the UKippers but frankly if you had to choose between that and generations of new voters then it's a no-brainer really.
So yes, if one is a labour supporting "Leaver" Corbyn stinks. But then, he isn't the real problem, it's Seumas Milne and his Stalinist chums. Jeremy is just the bearded jam maker.

[Hopkirk]

He's a politician, so no different from the rest of them.

To be fair to him, if you read what he actually said on student fees he didn't lie. He was just clever with his words.

Hopefully next time the youngsters will see through him.

[Baldric]

///Will Corbyn's Lies Be Seen Through ?///

I thought they already had been, we all saw his lips moving!

[Khandro]

Hopkirk; //if you read what he actually said on student fees he didn't lie.//?? This is what students read;

"First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

[Hopkirk]

Blimey Khandro's, that's far worse than what I saw attributed to him.

[sapelesam]

Why are people so gullible, and why do the cast their vote without doing any research. Corbyn came close to being PM on false promises, The Donald has not achieved anything that he promised and has backtracked on many campaign promises. How could people not see this coming.

[gulliver1]

Boris the Bus gained votes by lying about brexit. his lips were moving. and so was the Bus,

[New Judge]

"Corbyn came close to being PM..."

Er... Labour 262 seats, the others 388. Close call.

[Gromit]

// [Corbyn] has made a U-turn on Brexit //

No he hasn't. The Labour Party has.
He has always been anti the (UE?) but his party was pro EU. So the Labour Party campaigned to stay in the EU at the Referendum. Only Labour voters voted to leave. Subsequently the leadership has changed its stance to properly represent its electorate, and support Brexit.

[mikey4444]

He didn't lie about student fees.

People will continue to vote Labour, as they did in 2017,
with 12,877,869 voter, up from 9,347,304, that they achieved in 2015.

Get used to it....Labour isn't going to go away anytime soon.

[Gromit]

// [Corbyn] has made a U-turn on Brexit //

Corbyn is just leader of the oppostion and has no influence on our Brexit negotiations.

Contrast that with the Prime Minister who campaigned to stay in the EU but is now in charge of our leaving. She is the liar, she is the one who has done a U-turn. May is the fraud and the one who has the power. And she is the one who is screwing up Brexit and the one who will fail to not deliver (because her heart isn't in it, unlike Corbyn, a lifelong Euro Skeptic).

[Davemano]

Corbyn made promises on student fees if they won, and this is why he gained votes. Students voted Labour - ask Nick Clegg.

[webbo3]

Here you are Mikey.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/832255/Jeremy-Corbyn-student-debt-promise-Andrew-Marr-BBC-u-turn

\\we’ll introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees
Jeremy Corbyn//


\\Mr Corbyn added: “I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.”//


\\However, Mr Corbyn was accused of rowing back on his pledge to supposedly to cancel all student debt, arguing he had never made the promise.

In a pre-election interview with the NME, the Labour leader said: “First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether.

“We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees.//


Dave.

[Gromit]

Labour's 2017 General Election Manifesto promised to scrap Student Fees, NOT write off existing debt.

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/-/Images/manifesto-2017/Labour%20Manifesto%202017.pdf page 46.
// Labour will reintroduce maintenance grants for university students, and we will abolish university tuition fees. //

Anyone saying Corbyn/Labour lied going into the election is themselves a liar. The manifesto is there for anyone to read, and they never said they would write off any student debt.

[mikey4444]

Webbo....watch your own link....Corbyn did not say that he would abolish all existing student debt....Andrew Marr questioned him on that point, and Corbyn made it quite clear what Labour were promising if they won the Election.

But Labour will still attract votes in the future, despite Khandro throwing doubt on that.

[Davemano]

What was in the Manifesto is not what was told to the students by Corbyn - he promised more. On local TV news, when the students were questioned they stated labour because of the fees business.

[webbo3]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/86362/jeremy-corbyn-labour-could-write


\\Students who have already paid £9,000 a year in university tuition fees could have their debts cleared under a Labour government, Jeremy Corbyn has revealed.//


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4098921/jeremy-corbyns-student-debt-claims-blasted-after-video-emerged-of-a-shadow-minister-making-the-promise/


https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/jeremy-corbyn-labour-will-write-off-graduate-debt/

[Gromit]

And Boris couldn't make his mind up whether he was was pro or anti EU.
He wrote two articles, arguing both positions. Finally he jumped for Leave not because he believe it was best for the Country, but because it was best for Johnson's ambition to be Prime Minister.
And he even managed to screw that up.

[Davemano]

This thread is about Corbyn and his vote touting promises, nothing to do with Johnson.

[Gromit]

Webbo, did you read your own links?
// “Yes.. lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing the debt burden,” But he added: “I don't have the simple answer for it at this stage. //

That is not saying he will write off the debt.