Renta Mob To Disrupt Tory Conference

lindapalmara | 10:13 Fri 29th Sep 2017 | News

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So much for Democracy!

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Gromit

jno
Gromit, I think that's a typo for healthy budget surplus.

Then it is an even bigger lie. There was no budget surplus in 1997, but there was a few years later when Gordon Brown was in charge.

http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/11/03/UK_EDFCT0311_SB.jpg

Peter Pedant

/// Togo....trying to stop free speech and the right to protest now are you? /// That's not what you say when it is the far-right protesting.

No I usually say it is like a donkey braying TBH
but I have never said 'Drop the dead donkey' have I ?

I quite like some of your crazier posts AOG -
some of them are like er (modern) poetry
did Sp ever get that one from a few nights ago binned ?

Peter Pedant

// Gromit, I think that's a typo for healthy budget surplus. //

typos cover alot
The tory party is full of mad men
sorry I will read that again : the tory party is full of self-made men....

I prefer the first version actually

and lets not forget - 'Lesbian forces sorry lesbanese - lebanese forces have attacked ....' from thirty years ago

cassa333

Been out for most of the day and got back to this thread now.

I see as usual it has degenerated away from the OP.

However. Scooping at 12:03 has given me a spiffing idea.

Momentum and far left activists are doing May the power of good because they are showing up the Labour Party for what they are. So well done to them.

Next of course Labour people will be saying there is no such thing as LAbour activists or Momentum. It is all a Tory plan and ploy to double backflip attack Labour by pretending to attack themselves in the name of their enemy.

Remember you heard it hear first so when it becomes one of those urban myths or a meme that gets a life of its own..... NOOOOO I made it up.

Spicerack

You have to admire the Left.
Never short of a statistic or three to back up their argument. (regardless of how fatuous it is)

Kromovaracun

Statistics are better than soundbites ;)

Gromit

// Never short of a statistic or three to back up their argument. (regardless of how fatuous it is) //

If someone posts a lie, then the best way to refute that is to tell the truth, and give evidence to support it.

I guess if you are unable to find any offical evidence of a budget surplus in 1996 it is because one never existed.
If you post lies, do not be surprised if people stop believing anything you say.

Togo

I see that we were entertained with statistics earlier. Provided by Richard Murphy (courtesy of Kromo) the "accountant" to the TUC. What the bald "figures"(as yet not verified) fail to tell us is. When layboor were borrowing, was there a limit set on their credit splurge as by the very wary creditors? What were the rates of interest and API? Were they forced to flog off our gold reserves to unknown(yet) buyers at knock down prices in return for such loans? Notice that they only ever paid back loans just after winning elections after inheriting good rates after a Tory Government. But always borrowed vast amounts in panic when they knew that they were goosed, leaving as was once famously highlighted, notes in the petty cash tins that "sorry there is no money left" for the Tories to once again settle. Lies are easily believed by liars, they fail to recognise them as such.

Kromovaracun

Erm Murphy is not "the TUC's accountant", he is a tax researcher who has been consulted by them because he believes in tax reform. I'm not seeing any substantive criticism about why his figures are not reliable - and some of your assertions are extremely speculative. Labour did not borrow enormously in 2008 because "they knew they were goosed", they did it to fund an enormous bailout of the financial sector - a move which was essentially unavoidable. (You'll also notice that bailout is still by far the largest single cause of our debt today - a fact conveniently ignored by people who like to pretend it's from spending too much on public services).

Banging on and on and on at this semi-religious mantra that "Labour is the party of borrowing", "Labour is fiscally irresponsible" does not make it true.