La Vegas Shooter Radicalized?

[Khandro]

'Las Vegas authorities now acknowledge mass murderer Stephen Paddock may have been “radicalized” before his bloody rampage Sunday at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival but they won’t say what species of radicalism the shooter may have embraced.'
So said the sheriff but wouldn't elaborate.

[naomi24]

Khandro, your link doesn’t work – but you’re not really taking ISIS’ word for it, are you?

[Jahulaye]

We need less talk and more follow through from trump

[sp1814]

Thanks Khandro.

I’m going to take that with a large pinch of salt, until the FBI uncover evidence to support the claim.

[youngmafbog]

Apart from ISIS trying to claim it (which they wold whther it was ISIS related or not) what proof is there. Seems to me they really dont know and may well never know.

I think it is important to not jump to conclusions and accredit it to ISIS, this just gives them more publicity and furthers their aim of terrorism.

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IF this was an ISIS operation, then Trump, the NRA, and the alt right will have to accept far stricter gun control as part of anti terror measures//

What nonsence, do you really think ISIS care about the law?

[naomi24]

Jim, the ROP is peaceful - so long as you abide by what it says - and the POS you're talking about do.

[youngmafbog]

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We need less talk and more follow through from trump //

So long as it isnt follow through after a trump.

[sp1814]

Jahulaye

That’s interesting - what would you say Trump’s best move be right now?

I honestly don’t know how he should react to this.

[sp1814]

Khandro

Can I respectfully suggest that youngmafbog be considered for ‘Best Answer’ for his post at 10:29, which is clearly a sign of genius?

[Khandro]

n. I can only post it again;
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-10-03/there-s-no-evidence-linking-las-vegas-attack-isis-so-why-did-group-claim

In the article it certainly says that isis have been known to make false claims, but not that many.

[youngmafbog]

SP, what he must not do is a knee jerk reaction. Which he does seem not to be doing.

And, he needs to stay quiet until they know (if ever) the reason for it.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //On Monday, Amaq, the propaganda news agency for ISIS, called Paddock a “soldier of the caliphate” and later published a more formal claim. //

See that word 'propaganda'?

[Jahulaye]

10:29,funny post youngmafbog,what does your username mean?

Sp18:24, he needs to be more transparent, not base all his decisions on business deals and profit and really start using action in nkorea, Iran, and syria instead of fantasy Ng around like a plump ballerina.

[Jahulaye]

Fannying around even

[youngmafbog]

Middle Aged Fat Balding Old Git.

I originally tried to setup using MAFBOG but the email from AB got lost meaning the name was then registered but I couldnt use it. I was at the young end of Middle age at the time hence youngmafbog.

Probably more approiate to be mafbog now!

[Jahulaye]

Great username, maybe I should change my name to fasybgat
Fit and sexy young brunette girl attracting trolls,lol not you obviously.

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

ROP is a sarcastic description Jim.

[andy-hughes]

The speculation which we are debating comes from two interlinked concepts.

The first is rolling news, which must bed 'saying something' all the time, even if there is nothing to say. The truth is, as Naomi and others have pointed out several times, that no-one knows why this man acted as he did, but that won't fill news bulletins, hence the speculation, which gives the news media something to pretend to talk about, even though it is actually meaningless.

The second is something I have advised several times - which is the need for humanity to find reasons for massive events in the world.

Our minds are unhappy with the vague (but probably entirely realistic) notion that 'things just happen because they happen and there is no point looking for a reason because there is no reason to be found', so we look to find solid ground because that comforts us and enables us to move on.

Step forward the conspiracy theory which is the entirely natural result of the concept explained above.

If there is no real reason for something, let's invent one, however bizarre and far-fetched it may seem, it still beats the alternative, simply accepting that 'things happen, and that's it...' which is the reality of the world we live in.

[Khandro]

andy-hughes; 58 innocents dead and 489 wounded and you want us to accept
" that 'things happen, and that's it...' which is the reality of the world we live in."

What a plonker !

[youngmafbog]

Khandro, it is not ideal to put things down to 'just happening'.

However sometimes it really is just that. There is no expanation available for some actions and in my opinion it is far worse to compartmentalise something incorrectly.

If it can be proved ISIS are involved fine, let it out. But if not why give them the oxygen of publicity or Kudos that they crave for something they didnt do?

[jim360]

A-H may be a plonker but the reality of American politics and gun laws does indeed pretty means mean that "these things happen, and that's it".

It will be a while until we see something on this scale, if at all, but since nothing has changed or is going to in order to stop this sort of incident, it's essentially a given that it will happen again. And again. And even in the background, mass shootings on a smaller but still horrific scale occur essentially daily.

These things happen. And that's it. And I wish it were not, but there is no will to take the steps needed to make sure that it is much less likely to happen again.