What Has Happened To This Country????

[vernonk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073511/Teacher-suspended-praising-pupil-using-wrong-gender.html

Why is anyone pandering to these people?

[jim360]

Or -- here's just a thought -- or, rather than blaming the victims of bullying for being such wimps, you could do something to try and reduce the rate of bullying by... dealing with the bullies?

[Mamyalynne]

One off slip of the tongue, a simple correction would suffice.

Consistent poor behaviour isn't setting a good example to the pupils is it?

[woofgang]

Murraymints "bulliyng in the classroom has been and ever will be part of school life ! get over it"

I am really shocked by this attitude. Bullying was no part of my school (or college) life at all. Not pupil to pupil and certainly not staff to pupil.

[tamborine]

The kid will be bullied as the peers now know its weak spot

[Mamyalynne]

'It' ??

[Zacs-Master]

Woof, I think your school day experiences are out of kilter with most peoples. Bullying is, unfortunately, very common.

[tamborine]

Yes it coz its neither as its in trans ition

[anneasquith]

Get used to bullying in schools ? No .

[jim360]

Oh lord.

[Mamyalynne]

We don't need to look to schools for behaviour to make you despair really, do we?

[jim360]

"Misgendering" is annoying, but I at least get where it comes from. Not even affording a child a gender at all is pretty pathetic.

[gness]

I'm on the fence about this teacher..........all the head teachers I have known will defend a good teacher to the bitter end....this head doesn't appear to be doing that....and I don't know why yet.....

As for accepting bullying in school be it by teachers or pupils!
That's not on.....for heaven's sake....what is it teaching our children if we say to the bullied....
"Bullying is good for you....it'll make you grow up"
Or say to the bullier....
"We won't punish you for being a bully......you're doing some kid a favour."
This is so, so wrong.......!

[vetuste_ennemi]

So religion is "inappropriate" in the maths class. Though not, apparently, role playing: "Look, he thinks he's Napoleon. No, don't laugh - that would be bullying - let's all call him Emperor (Empereur to you posh ones)."

Of course, being forced to participate in this particular delusion could turn out to be trickier than you think. How many genders identities are there today? (The LGBTQWERTY acronym has wrapped round several time by now, hasn't it? And new "identities" are being invented all the time in Gender Studies departments everywhere.) Each of these has, or will have its own preferred pronouns, the refusal to use which can and will be viewed as "disrespect" or worse. (As an aside I'm not sure that all languages are equally up to speed on this issue. I've been following the Jordan Peterson affair in Canada and I don't think French can accommodate the full gender identity spectrum, leaving the millions of trans-gendered-two-spirited-neutro Quebecois robbed of their dignity.). The trickiness I see is this, we've got to allow for gender-fluidity. What happens when Pupil A is a "he" today", but a "her" tomorrow? How are we to keep up with this? One solution, I suppose, is the gender identity bracelet. Here's an example:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/192328665/gender-identity-pride-bracelet

Although in this example there's only three of them I can't tell which is which. This is going to need lots of teacher training by lots of teacher trainers, and lots of monitoring and enforcing by the the kind of people who like monitoring and enforcing.

[jim360]

If you weren't sure what to call someone you could always... ask them.

[Mamyalynne]

Why go the simple and courteous route Jim, when you can write paragraphs of high faulting stuff?

[Mamyalynne]

^ would help if I could spell - Faluting

[vetuste_ennemi]

I wouldn't want to mock, far less harm the person who thought he was Napoleon, Jim. But I wouldn't assent to and participate in a delusion which is harmful to him.

[woofgang]

ZM sadly I believe that it is common, but surely not inevitable or something to be accepted?

[-Talbot-]

jim360
"Misgendering" is annoying,



How many genders are there, Jim?

[woofgang]

vestute_ennemi, if the person genuinely does have a diagnosed mental illness resulting in a such a delusion, they it may be entirely appropriate to support the delusion as part of a treatment or management plan. This child however is neither mentally ill nor deluded and, from what the paper has reported, the staff member was playing out their own unkind power play.