Britain First Deputy Leader Jayda Fransen Is Arrested For Making An Anti-Terrorism Speech.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5096451/Britain-deputy-leader-Jayda-Fransen-arrested.html

[vulcan42]

New Judge, it's not like you to have a "mini rant" against law and order. The article doesn't say how many N I police took part, only that the PSNI detectives worked with officers from the London Metropolitan Police service.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

To be honest, I can see where mikeyr4444 is coming from. Sometimes it makes people happy when bad things happen to people we don’t like.

It’s like when Katie Hopkins got sued for libel or when Robert Mugabe was put under house arrest. The circumstances matter little if the ‘object of our undesire’ is inconvenienced.

[THECORBYLOON]

https://youtu.be/KAADs2bfPaQ
I'm having wi-fi issues and I've not viewed it

[mikey4444]

The equally awful Leader of BF, Paul Golding, seems to be making threats, in this video, made when he first come out of prison earlier this year :::

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-first-leader-threat-mps-journalists-paul-golding-jail-release-a7534126.html

[-Talbot-]

You and mikey sound like you are a danger to living in a decent society, sp.

[mikey4444]

Talbot....what on earth does that mean ! ?

[sp1814]

I echo mikey4444's question.

[Mamyalynne]

Thank you Corby - there is no denying Jayda is an excellent speaker and has the ability to gain the trust of her audience.

Of course there is truth within her speeches, but it doesn't greatly surprise me this has brought investigation.

[-Talbot-]

Quite simple sp, mikey.

One of you thinks it is good that people they don't like get arrested irrelevant of whether they have done anything wrong (that bit is of no interest)

The other seems Happy to hear of bad things happening (like getting arrested for possible trumped up charges) to people they don't like or agree with.



I don't like religion in general and Islam in particular but I would not think 'good' if I read in the paper that some Imams, Vicars or Rabbis were arrested if I didn't know what for.

[New Judge]

“New Judge, it's not like you to have a "mini rant" against law and order. The article doesn't say how many N I police took part, only that the PSNI detectives worked with officers from the London Metropolitan Police service.”

I was going by this:

'A large group of plain clothes police detectives from Belfast of all places jumped out of nowhere and have arrested Jayda.”

I accept that this information was provided by Paul Golding who may have lumped the Met officers with those from NI.

My rant is not against law and order, per se. It is against the inefficient use of manpower demonstrated by both the PSNI and the Met. There was no need for a “large group” of officers – wherever they came from - to be involved in the arrest of Ms Fransen. There was little likliehood of her trying to resist arrest. The police service is constantly weeping about its lack of manpower yet it frequently can find excessive numbers of officers to become involved in operations where one or two will do. An arrest warrant could have been sent from NI to the Met, Ms Fransen. She could have been arrested and bailed to return to a police station when an NI officer could have been present to either return her to Belfast or question her here. Complete and unnecessary overkill which is often demonstrated where "high profile" or "sensitive" matters are involved.

[mikey4444]

Talbot..... as far as I am concerned, the more misfortune that befalls Britain First and its supporters, the better.

As I have said on countless previous occasions, its a very nasty, racist, and duplicitous organisation. I waste no tears over Golding and Franzen.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

//The other seems Happy to hear of bad things happening (like getting arrested for possible trumped up charges) to people they don't like or agree with.//

Let's ignore the capitalisation of the H in Happy which makes it sound like I want to be one of the seven dwarves (I don't).

I'm not particularly happy that this woman has been arrested. My feelings don't venture past the point of 'meh' in this.

Also, your analogy about religion isn't quite right. We're talking about an individual (Jayda Fransen), rather than an abstract (religion).

A better comparison would be the reaction to Gina Miller being arrested for fraud.

We all know what the reaction from certain people would be on that. There would be cheers all the way from the Daily Express, through to the Daily Mail and echoes of those cheers would be here.

It's human nature.

[-Talbot-]

Imams, Vicars and Rabbis are abstract?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

No.

Religion is.

You don't like religion.

That's the abstract.

That's why it's not a fair comparison, because Jayda Fransen and Britain First aren't abstracts.

[mikey4444]

SP...don't confuse him !

[mikey4444]

Nice of you to say so Baldric ....I love you too !

[Baldric]

Up to you, I have never felt unnatural affectional feelings for a person of the same sex, but each to their own is my motto.

[-Talbot-]

sp1814
That's why it's not a fair comparison, because Jayda Fransen and Britain First aren't abstracts.


Britain First isn't abstract but Islam is?
Is that what you are saying?
Really, is that what you are saying?

[Mamyalynne]

Jayda is not averse to bringing religion into her speeches and did so in the one mentioned in the OP.

Presuming the one Corby linked to is the right one of course.