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Stop Press !.....tory Rebels Defeat Pm Over Brexit Vote
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"In a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, MPs voted to give Parliament a legal guarantee of a vote on the final Brexit deal struck with Brussels"
I was a REMAIN supporter, but I thought that one of the reasons that people voted for BREXIT, was to bring back control of our affairs to Parliament ?
"In a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, MPs voted to give Parliament a legal guarantee of a vote on the final Brexit deal struck with Brussels"
I was a REMAIN supporter, but I thought that one of the reasons that people voted for BREXIT, was to bring back control of our affairs to Parliament ?
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The question of what happens in the event of Parliament voting down a deal is rather an important one.
It will affect how MPs vote. If the choice is "deal" or leave anyway with no deal", assuming we ever get to that point -- and it is hard to see how rebel Tories who wouldn't stand for not having a proper vote at all would stand for that -- then I cannot see MPs going for the latter option - plainly that is why those were the options the Brexiteers wanted to present to Parliament. It seems unlikely that we could have "deal" or "remain" without another referendum. Equally, "deal" or "back to the negotiating table" seems unlikely.
"Deal" or "faff around endlessly" is surely something the country cannot afford
It will affect how MPs vote. If the choice is "deal" or leave anyway with no deal", assuming we ever get to that point -- and it is hard to see how rebel Tories who wouldn't stand for not having a proper vote at all would stand for that -- then I cannot see MPs going for the latter option - plainly that is why those were the options the Brexiteers wanted to present to Parliament. It seems unlikely that we could have "deal" or "remain" without another referendum. Equally, "deal" or "back to the negotiating table" seems unlikely.
"Deal" or "faff around endlessly" is surely something the country cannot afford
Meanwhile waiting in the wings for the moment, just like a previous saviour of Great Britain that saved us from European tyranny and a complacent political "class", is darling Nigel.
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Talbot it is my opinion, I claim no 'qualification' to hold such an opinion.
50% of the UK's entire imports and exports are to and from the EU .
Renegotiating that is going to be a major stumbling block. It will not take 'just a couple of months' as some on here have said.
Others say the answer is to 'widen trading areas' OK I can see the logic in that .
But do you think it can be achieved in just a year or so? It will take decades. Other countries already have their trading / export /import deals in place.
Are they going to just roll over and say '' Ok UK now you have left the EU, so we are going to hand over all our hard won export / import / trade deals to you?'' If you believe that you really are living in cloud cuckoo land.
50% of the UK's entire imports and exports are to and from the EU .
Renegotiating that is going to be a major stumbling block. It will not take 'just a couple of months' as some on here have said.
Others say the answer is to 'widen trading areas' OK I can see the logic in that .
But do you think it can be achieved in just a year or so? It will take decades. Other countries already have their trading / export /import deals in place.
Are they going to just roll over and say '' Ok UK now you have left the EU, so we are going to hand over all our hard won export / import / trade deals to you?'' If you believe that you really are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Ohhh let me help you with that Togo, you mean this eejit https:/
Kvilidir Those are not the only UKIP policies Farage would rather we did not remember.
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Even more include changing the NHS to the USA system , banning maternity pay , turning the London Underground Circle line into a 'True Circle' and forcing all rail companies to paint trains Red White and Blue to honour our flag.
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Even more include changing the NHS to the USA system , banning maternity pay , turning the London Underground Circle line into a 'True Circle' and forcing all rail companies to paint trains Red White and Blue to honour our flag.
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One day Talbot if you try very, very hard, you might post something that makes a modicom of sense, meanwhile here have a star for the effort * 21:54 Wed 13th Dec 2017 One day Talbot if you try very, very hard, you might post something that makes a modicom of sense, meanwhile here have a star for the effort *
Well let's start from the beginning ... you, the nice 'lefty' (I think you would associate yourself with the left?) are being insulting ... yes?
Why?
If you don't understand a post, why not ask what it means?
One day Talbot if you try very, very hard, you might post something that makes a modicom of sense, meanwhile here have a star for the effort * 21:54 Wed 13th Dec 2017 One day Talbot if you try very, very hard, you might post something that makes a modicom of sense, meanwhile here have a star for the effort *
Well let's start from the beginning ... you, the nice 'lefty' (I think you would associate yourself with the left?) are being insulting ... yes?
Why?
If you don't understand a post, why not ask what it means?
Hardly 'stop press', it's been trailed all day.
Just the latest step in the Project Let's Get Back To Normal. Nobody seriously believes that the grinning nonentity has been assigned a brief that must succeed, surely.
We're not leaving and you'll still be able to get tons of fags back from the Costas.
Just the latest step in the Project Let's Get Back To Normal. Nobody seriously believes that the grinning nonentity has been assigned a brief that must succeed, surely.
We're not leaving and you'll still be able to get tons of fags back from the Costas.
// Grieve’s amendment had the effect of limiting ministers’ power to make sweeping changes to the law before parliament has approved the Brexit deal. //
A shocking attack on democracy and the sovereignty of Parliament has been stymied, well done. We did not vote to reign back power from the EU only to have it snatched by a cabal of Consersative Cabinet Ministers.
A shocking attack on democracy and the sovereignty of Parliament has been stymied, well done. We did not vote to reign back power from the EU only to have it snatched by a cabal of Consersative Cabinet Ministers.
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