Heterosexual Men Marry

[Zacs-Master]

Great story tipifying Irish character
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/23/two-heterosexual-irish-men-marry-to-avoid-inheritance-tax-on-house

[Jahulaye]

Aaah.... The old “ We know she’s hit the nail on the head with a powerful analogy but we’ll deliberately act obtuse to avoid a young educated female outstaging us” ruse

[albaqwerty]

If folk find legal ways to avoid paying tax, then I'm all for it.

[ToraToraTora]

how dense are you? I though it was pretty clear, I do not blame anyone for optimising the law as it is. Simples!

[Mamyalynne]

Well done Matt and Michael - Congratulations.

[Zacs-Master]

You really should have bowed out when you had the chance Julie. Now, what was that you said on your other thread about looking silly......

[THECORBYLOON]

When the "young educated female" fails to recognise that legislation already caters for sham marriages then she may wish to re-consider her descriptions of her analogy as being "powerful" and herself as being "educated"...

[gness]

Thanks, Zacs.......we all had a smile at this........followed by memories of folk we knew who did things just a little differently...

Our neighbour back home wanted to build a bungalow but was given permission only for a garage......was a posh garage he built....and it got posher and posher as the years went by.... :-)

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// Factually stating that same sex marriage is legal is the Same as supporting it, is it? ///

No it is just stating a fact.

[jno]

marrying for money is an ancient British tradition.

[Jahulaye]

“how dense are you? I though it was pretty clear, I do not blame anyone for optimising the law as it is. Simples!”

Well please don’t cry and make thread after thread and links about immigrants who are doing the same, simples.

[anotheoldgit]

Jahulaye

What is your fixation regarding immigrants, are you one yourself?

Just asking.

[Islay]

Jahulaye
For god's sake do not give him any information about yourself as he will hold it against you for here to the end of time!!

[Jahulaye]

“What is your fixation regarding immigrants, are you one yourself?

Just asking.“

No I’m Caucasian English, but what is YOUR fixation regarding immigrants, Muslims, blacks, Asians etc...

Are you an islamophobic anti “anyone of colour?”

Just asking.

No offence, like.

[Jahulaye]

“
Jahulaye
For god's sake do not give him any information about yourself as he will hold it against you for here to the end of time!!”

Thanks Islay, I’ve managed to attract some stalkers but have been on sites where I’ve been trolled by some real sickos so a few grumpy old men can’t pierce my thick skin.

[Spicerack]

You spelt head wrong, Julie.

[hc4361]

I bet many men and women have married for similar reasons.

[douglas9401]

They're upholding the law, the law of unintended consequences.

We're all equal now y'know.

[New Judge]

“Aaah.... The old “ We know she’s hit the nail on the head with a powerful analogy…”

But it’s not a powerful analogy, for the reasons I’ve already cited. It is not analogous at all.

“Well please don’t cry and make thread after thread and links about immigrants who are doing the same, simples.”

But the immigrants are not doing the same. The two Irish men are not breaking any law because whilst their marriage may be “sham” there is no legislation which makes it open to challenge. Immigrants who indulge in similar arrangements are breaking the law because legislation specifically makes it illegal to participate in a marriage ceremony simply to gain an advantage in the matter of their immigration status. As hc correctly summises, it is probable that many heterosexual couples have married purely for financial advantage, quite possibly including the minimisation of tax liabilities. Their marriages are not open to challenge and nor is that of the two Irish men.

I don’t know how much simpler I can explain it.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Only in Ireland!

Clearly making a mockery of same-sex marriage which makes a mockery of traditional marriage.

[Deskdiary]

This is an awesome story - I love hearing stories of people who have legitimately avoided tax, the trouble is too many people cannot separate avoidance from evasion.

Having an ISA is tax avoidance.

These men have legally, and therefore morality doesn't come into it, struck upon a way of avoiding what is an insidious tax - good for them.

There is not a person alive who, if offered an entirely legitimate way of paying £50 tax rather than £100 tax, wouldn't seize it with open arms. Anybody saying they wouldn't is a liar.

These men have used the legal system to their advantage. Good for them.