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gulliver1 | 12:24 Sun 04th Feb 2018 | News
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The time is now for Britain to change its mind on leaving the EU, says TORY MP and former attorney General Dominic Grieve, anyone agree with him?.
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Quite so, jourdain. It’s not possible to have a “Brexit that suits everybody”. Any departure that leaves the UK under the influence of the EU in any significant way will be a Brexit that does not suit those who voted to leave. And they voted in the majority. To suggest that they voted to leave but, for example, not to quit the Single Market or Customs Union is absolute tosh. Membership of either of those institutions entails sacrificing considerable rights – not least the need to ensure freedom of movement, the inability to strike individual trade agreements and to set tariffs which suit this country without regard for the needs of 27 others. To suggest we leave the EU whilst continuing to observe the conditions of two of its most important institutions is just plain daft.

The problem the likes of Ms Rudd and others of her ilk suffer is that they have become so accustomed to contentious issues being “fudged” or kicked into the long grass that they have forgotten that when democratic decisions are taken properly it often means that a hefty section of the electorate does not get what they want.
The majority of the seemingly endless threads on Brexit haven't been started by those who voted remain.


To that end, yes I too am sick of reading about it.
You can always ignore such questions, mamy :-)
‘when democratic decisions are taken properly’

I would remind you that the conditions of Brexit were subject to the EU referendum act which clearly explained there was no legal basis agreed for a ‘leave’ win. If you think, as a man of law, that that’s the proper way to hold such a vote, then I’m dissapointed.

In addition to the above, and as I’ve pointed out on several occasions, people voted knowing the Tory party was pro EU. If they voted in the expectation that it would all go swimmingly well, then I’m more than disappointed.
I largely do.


It occasionally rankles when I read 'I wish all you remoaners (another stupid catchword) would shut up', but not enough to spoil a Sunday evening really. :-)
//The majority of the seemingly endless threads on Brexit haven't been started by those who voted remain.//

Well this one certainly was.
Jackdaw - yes, and thought most of the ones which I have bothered to read were.

Gullible voted leave???


Oops, misread the Post, soz
Maybe I've seen too many T³ threads and they've maxed me out?

They tend to.

Geddit?
..and this thread.
As you say Mamya, there is more than enough of them. I try to miss them and stick to Qs and Xwords.
What’s that supposed to prove JD?
Accept my withdrawal of above remark for lack of research,validity of counting (too cold to take slippers off) and basic sheer ineptitude.

Think I'm just fed up of it all generally.
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22.52, Evening Cpl Jones, whats the weather like at Walmington -on -sea?
Agree yes, 100%. When we have the second referendum perhaps the Brexiteers will use their brains, do some research and come up with a sensible decision this time.
It's too late now. Backing out from this stupid course would be just as destructive as continuing with it. If we changed course now, you can certainly expect more Thomas Mairs and civil unrest on the scale of the 2011 riots. Not to mention a permanent tarnishing of Britain's few democratic institutions.

The die has been cast. The next decade or so is going to be turbulent and unpleasant one way or another, there's no backing out now.
Brexit ... type it an they will come.

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