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Brexit.
The time is now for Britain to change its mind on leaving the EU, says TORY MP and former attorney General Dominic Grieve, anyone agree with him?.
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Kromo....I agree. Like millions of others, I voted to remain. But ti change tack at this very late stage, would be counter-productive.
What we need Mrs May to do now is make sure that we leave on the very best terms we can. But I have very little confidence that she has the skills or the will do this, so its going to be, as you suggest, a very difficult and turbulent few years.
What we need Mrs May to do now is make sure that we leave on the very best terms we can. But I have very little confidence that she has the skills or the will do this, so its going to be, as you suggest, a very difficult and turbulent few years.
“When we have the second referendum perhaps the Brexiteers will use their brains, do some research and come up with a sensible decision this time.”
How much research did you do, diddlydoo, before casting your vote (assuming you voted, of course)? I made my mind up which way I would vote (if ever given the chance) in 1992. If you care to do some research you may understand the significance of that date when discussing the EU. Although the way I would vote was never in doubt I undertook extensive research prior to the referendum (mainly to find out What The Funicular “Project Fear” was banging on about). I probably have a better than average grasp of what EU membership (in its totality) means for the UK.
Had you done the same you would have established (among many other things) that the UK cannot forge its own trading agreements with other nations, it cannot alter the tariffs that EU member nations must apply to their imports (even if, say, the UK is the only member importing a particular product), it cannot alter the range of products upon which to charge VAT, it cannot determine who does and does not settle here, it cannot introduce legislation that runs contrary to EU law, it cannot let public sector (which has a wide meaning) contracts unless they are offered to the entire EU, the government cannot provide support to companies which are in competition with others in the EU. These are just a few of the things about which I was most dissatisfied that came along with our membership (there are countless others).
If you are happy with all the restrictions which are said to be necessary for the UK to “have access to the Single Market” then fine. Unfortunately you were in the minority in June 2016, which is what counted. You may also like to learn that countless non-EU nations have “access” to the Single Market without having the same restrictions imposed upon them. Further than that, the “Single Market” is not quite all it’s cracked up to be. It is a protectionist institution that does little for those companies wishing to trade beyond the EU (where 93% of the world’s population lives).
So, by all means challenge the views of Leavers (though the decision to leave has been taken). They made a decision with which you disagree but don’t assume that they are brainless dumbos with no sense ‘cos it ain’t nice and it's uncalled for.
How much research did you do, diddlydoo, before casting your vote (assuming you voted, of course)? I made my mind up which way I would vote (if ever given the chance) in 1992. If you care to do some research you may understand the significance of that date when discussing the EU. Although the way I would vote was never in doubt I undertook extensive research prior to the referendum (mainly to find out What The Funicular “Project Fear” was banging on about). I probably have a better than average grasp of what EU membership (in its totality) means for the UK.
Had you done the same you would have established (among many other things) that the UK cannot forge its own trading agreements with other nations, it cannot alter the tariffs that EU member nations must apply to their imports (even if, say, the UK is the only member importing a particular product), it cannot alter the range of products upon which to charge VAT, it cannot determine who does and does not settle here, it cannot introduce legislation that runs contrary to EU law, it cannot let public sector (which has a wide meaning) contracts unless they are offered to the entire EU, the government cannot provide support to companies which are in competition with others in the EU. These are just a few of the things about which I was most dissatisfied that came along with our membership (there are countless others).
If you are happy with all the restrictions which are said to be necessary for the UK to “have access to the Single Market” then fine. Unfortunately you were in the minority in June 2016, which is what counted. You may also like to learn that countless non-EU nations have “access” to the Single Market without having the same restrictions imposed upon them. Further than that, the “Single Market” is not quite all it’s cracked up to be. It is a protectionist institution that does little for those companies wishing to trade beyond the EU (where 93% of the world’s population lives).
So, by all means challenge the views of Leavers (though the decision to leave has been taken). They made a decision with which you disagree but don’t assume that they are brainless dumbos with no sense ‘cos it ain’t nice and it's uncalled for.
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