Cheddar Man Was Probably White...

[Spicerack]

Quelle surprise, lol.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton-cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/

[Mamyalynne]

Full article is behind a pay wall but got the gist - thanks.

[Gromit]

New scientist Behind a pay wall.

I always assumed Cheddar Man had a palish yellow complexion.

[Mamyalynne]

Chortle.

[Spicerack]

It must come as a blow to the race-baiters and self-loathing lefties who celebrated the original lie.

[Garaman]

I can only see as far as the bit which says one of the geneticists is less certain.

They are a bit behind anyway as he has already been identified on AB as a lone traveller.

[Mamyalynne]

No blow whatsoever, as I said before the shade of my (our) ancestor's skin has no effect on how I view my existence.

[jim360]

As far as I can see the scientist behind this article merely says that "we can't be certain", not that "he was definitely white" (nor even probably). Even the original article merely said that the man was "probably" black -- although many media reports turned that into "definitely".

But I don't see any lying here. Ironically, you seem to be misrepresenting this yourself.

In the long run it hardly matters, or at least it should hardly matter. There should be no triumph in this man being white, only in the truth being understood.

[Spicerack]

That's my point, jim.
There should have been no triumph in him being black. But there was.

[jim360]

That's as may be but I don't think it was coming from the scientists at the heart of the study. If -- as is perhaps inevitable -- various people latched onto it for their own ends that's regrettable, but hardly undermines the original study itself.

I'm not sure who you're criticising, is the main thing.

[HansUrbancka]

White,black ,red, yellow.......Does it really matter , because I am pinkish. ??

Hans

[Tilly2]

If he's been found in Cheshire, he would have been whiter and more crumbly.

[anotheoldgit]

Oh dear! one in the eye for the diversity brigade.

[Mamyalynne]

Crumbly and only one eye?

Poor chap.

[Tilly2]

Mr Potato Head?

[youngmafbog]

The last ice age was 10,000 years ago so cheddar man most likely had only just arrived. I would suggest that the idea he was white is probably not true. Probably 'swarthy' (darkish?) rather than black as I would expect the travel from Africa to have taken quite some time so skin would lighten slightly over time/generations.

Just my guess of course. He could have caught the trans-Europe express fro Northern Africa and be very dark, on the other hand Santa could have dropped him off from the north pole in which case he would be a right snowflake.

[Togo]

Wonder what colour the "artists" were who decided to make the remains.....ahemmm black?
Must have been a bit parky for the soul whatever.

[whiskeryron]

With a thick coating of mud.

[Old_Geezer]

Well, I expect the New Scientist authors hadn't read the newspaper article properly before commenting. Still, it doesn't matter anyway.

[Gromit]

Without being able to read the New Scientist article it id difficult to understand why they diasagree with the original conclusion.

Apparently the DNA sample they got was very good, and the genome data they got was very clear. Reading the genome characteristics is a rather simple process, and it this sample, it matched people who have darker skin.