Welsh Smoking Ban

[sp1814]

Do you agree with this?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/25/wales-to-ban-smoking-outside-hospitals-and-schools-in-uk-first

Wales is to become the first country in the UK to ban smoking in outdoor school spaces, playgrounds and hospital grounds.

I like the idea of 'de-normalising' smoking. Making it seem somehow seedy. I say this as someone who smoked and LOVED IT for many years.

But...I think this might be a good idea.

[10ClarionSt]

It's not the cigarette smoke that triggers your asthma, it's an allergy that's triggered by your dislike of passive smoking. I don't believe passive smoking causes any illnesses. I've stated my reasons for that viewpoint on here many times.

[douglas9401]

I doubt that countdown will ever reach liftoff but another thread may emerge at some point. :-)

[Caran]

Gloucester hospital has signs all over that this is a smoke free campus. It doesn't work! You have to fight your way into the hospital through a crowd of smokers with an assortment of drips, wheelchairs and other medical bits and pieces.

[ChillDoubt]

I personally can’t wait. I’m fed up of wading through patients and staff alike at hospital entrances, the ‘snoutcasts’ shuffling aimlessly about before leaving their disgusting dog-ends littered all about.
And yes, I’m an ex-smoker.
I just hope it’ll be enforced with an almost Gestapo-esque zeal.

[Buenchico]

^^^ That's why, Caran, the Welsh government is planning to actually make it illegal to smoke in hospital grounds, meaning that anyone who does so can be fined.

[ChillDoubt]

I don't believe passive smoking causes any illnesses. I've stated my reasons for that viewpoint on here many times
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Oh dear, there’s always one......

[Buenchico]

>>> I don't believe passive smoking causes any illnesses

Possibly not, but my mother (who never smoked but who had to live my her heavy-smoking father) died of lung cancer. It does lead to the question of whether or not she'd have died if he'd quit smoking, doesn't it?

[Buenchico]

^^^ Typo!

For 'her' read 'my'.

[Jackdaw33]

I have smoked for 55 years and continue to do so. I no longer smoke out of doors since the ban came in in 2007. I harm no-one but myself. The number of times I have been in hospital over the past 3 years deprived of the weed didn't bother me one little bit. I smoke because I like to, not because I have to.

[10ClarionSt]

Ok, Chilldoubt. There IS always one. And there are lots of people who've been brainwashed and conditioned by the media and the govt. I'll give my reasons again.
Firstly, the proof that passive smoking causes no illnesses is all around you. Secondly, how can you prove that passive smoking has caused any illness, or death, even? Third; Whose death certificate or medical record, says the problem was caused by passive smoking? Then there's Roy Castle. He said he got cancer because he performed regularly in smoky nightclubs, and everyone believed him, to the point where there is now a charity in his name. What about everyone else who was in those nightclubs? Audiences and other performers? Where is the proof that is all around you? It's everywhere. It's the
'Baby Boomer' generation itself. A government survey in 1949 showed that 81% of men and 62% of women were smokers. Smoking was everywhere. My mother was a smoker and had three children. My father was a smoker. We were passive smoking from conception and were born into the world of the smoker. It couldn't be avoided; at your grandparents (smokers); at your aunts and uncles (smokers); on public transport; in the cinema; at school, teachers smoked at the dinner tables. It was the time of austerity too, with rationing still in place till 1954. It was the time of the great smogs. We didn't really have much going for us in those years.
But now, the government are saying we are the lucky generation. We will live longer than any previous generation and become a burden on the NHS. Looking back to the post war years, what made us so resilient that we will burden all the poor snowflakes with our prolonged existence? And resilient we were. Still are. Can someone please give answers? I am not a smoker BTW. I just don't believe all the gubbins and fickleness of anti-smokers. Smokers don't bother me and I'd never be so precious and self-righteous to condemn them. Apart from that, everything's fine!

[waterboatman]

It's an excellent idea. Nothing worse than reaching a hospital entrance and seeing dogends all over the ground, despite there being a receptical for them.

[ToraToraTora]

10cs, all very well but as usual you miss the point, I don't care if it's bad or good I just don't want to smell it, I don't want it in my clothes and hair, don;t want my space turned into an ash tray, geddit?

...........1......... you are all doing so well.

[ToraToraTora]

"seeing dogends all over the ground, despite there being a receptical for them. " - why are smokers incapable of using a bin? always mystified me that has.

[dannyk13]

For years the Bradford Royal Infirmary has banned smoking in any part of the hospital including the hospital grounds.

[ummmm]

Same for my local hospital, it's been banned for yonks.

[Old_Geezer]

Terminal patients denied a "pleasure" they've had a lifetime, seems harsh. Whilst a ban needs to be enforced one would hope for a little understanding and the turning a blind eye where compassion is the better option.

[ummmm]

OG - I think with terminal illness they have exceptions. When my dad was in a hospice they brought round a drinks trolley and had a smoking room.

[anthro-nerd]

Personally, I think this sounds good, it's going to upset people of course, but smoking is a nasty habit!

[ToraToraTora]

.......0....... Congrats everybody we have got through a smoking thread without someone claiming smoking is a net contributor to the treasury, well done!

[mallyh]

but we are thinking it lol ^^^^^