Questions For The British Home Secretary

[Khandro]

Lots of 'first times' on here, including the first in this post to sign in on the Koran. Where is Britain heading?

[fiction-factory]

I heard what he said. If you want to post the relevant words that show something else then please do, naomi.

[fiction-factory]

The media are: Evil wicked scum. Every one of them apparently.

[Khandro]

FF //"International outrage is quite rightly being directed at Britain". Really?//

Yes really; Questions have been asked by American congressmen, there have been protests in Australia and in several European countries, countless questions asked on videos other than this one and what we ashamedly get from some on this site are words, like 'rubbish' and 'garbage', would those dishing out these lies, care to explain what they think is factually wrong with anything stated by Paul Weston?


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[naomi24]

fiction-factory, Tommy Robinson’s treatment has been heavily criticised abroad.

It’s incumbent upon you to substantiate your claim. You post the relevant words.

I’ll ask again. Why is any of that acceptable?

[Kromovaracun]

//countless questions asked on videos other than this one//

You mean youtube comments.

[fiction-factory]

Okay Naomi.
"Please bear in mind that asking a British Home Secretary to look into these issues of the phsyical and psychological torture of Tommy Robinson might just be affected by the extraordinary fact that for the first time in the history of our country we have in Sajid Javid a Home Secretary who swore his oath of political office on the Koran. Welcome to our present in totalitarian Sharia Britain and welcome to our future. It's Tommy and others today; tomorrow it will be all of us."

What's all that about then?

As for your other question- is any of what acceptable?

[naomi24]

Krom, it's doubtful that mainstream media will broadcast the questions that are being asked. That would never do. Most of the people here, despite having plenty to say, won't even watch the video. Could that be because they know they'll happen upon uncomfortable truths too difficult to address?

[fiction-factory]

Comments on facebook and on youtube channels, or from posters on AnswerBank from extremist groups do not constitute" international outrage".

[-Talbot-]

Very vocal this morning FF.


Neither I nor any loved ones have got such a history of domestic violence



That's pretty damning.
Can you provide evidence of this obviously vast amount of domestic violence... tia.

[fiction-factory]

It's a pretty poor esponse, Naomi. It's a tactic some use on here but we can see through it. Post a length video from an unreliable source and then when people with better things to do don't watch teh whole thing someone says " could that be that they know they'll happen upon uncomfortable truths too difficult to address?"
Twaddle

[dannyk13]

FF.//Secretary who swore his oath of political office on the Koran.//
On what would you have him swear? The Bible?.He swore an oath on the book of his belief.
Your remark about Shariah Law smacks of paranoia.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Comments on facebook and on youtube channels, or from posters on AnswerBank from extremist groups do not constitute" international outrage//

That's true.

But who are AnswerBank's "extremist groups"?

[fiction-factory]

No Talbot- but I will when you post the full sentence

[fiction-factory]

Sorry VE
Missed an 'OR' out when i went back and inserted the reference to Answerbank.
Should have read:
"comments on facebook and on youtube channels or from posters on AnswerBank or from extremist groups do not constitute" international outrage"

[Kromovaracun]

There are certainly serious problems with established media outlets. They run on an unsustainable 24-hour cycle, they copy-paste too much from wire agencies that goes unchecked, they've largely abandoned investigative journalism (even the biggest 'scoops' of the past 10 years have been handed to newspapers rather than discovered through judicious investigation), and they rely overmuch on pundits rather than proper journalists.

But let's try to keep some perspective. Bad is bad. Atrocious is atrocious. I am not convinced that the solution to this problem is to ditch the media and instead start getting our information from unhinged conspiracy theorists on youtube who profit (via Patreon and other means) from extremist bilge.

[fiction-factory]

dannyk13- maybe you realise, but for the avoidance of doubt, my quote was taken from the video and was in response to Naomi's claim about what she feels the video didn't say.

[dannyk13]

FF sorry, maybe if you had put that in //'s to indicate it was a quote I would have seen that.

[-Talbot-]

Can you provide a link for any domestic violence FF

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, //What's all that about then?//

It isn’t saying //his treatment was due to having a Muslim Home Secretary and Sharia Law,//. As far as I’m aware the Home Secretary wasn’t responsible for the conditions he was subjected to in prison …. or was he? As for Sharia Law … in that prison …..debatable.

//is any of what acceptable?//

Incarcerating him in a prison that has the highest percentage of Muslim inmates, giving him a cell close to the mosque, leaving his cell door unlocked, and allowing Muslim prisoners to prepare his food, which for obvious reasons, he wouldn’t eat? Is any of that acceptable?

//could that be that they know they'll happen upon uncomfortable truths too difficult to address?"
Twaddle//

Why twaddle? Why a poor response? You’ve avoided my question – and you’ve watched the video! Still, I’ve explained it now, so perhaps we’ll have better luck.

[fiction-factory]

It was in written in quotation marks danny, but perhaps I shuld have made it clearer. Naomi would have known it was a quote- she had sort of asked me for it