Can Rice Be Cultural Appropriated ?

[webbo3]

Can rice be cultural appropriated ?, labour mp Dawn Butler thinks so.
https://twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1030741609984548864

[naomi24]

Prudie, //treated its indigents poorly//

At first glance I thought you said 'treating its ingredients poorly'. Oops! :o)

[Old_Geezer]

They should complain to the EU and demand it's made a protected food name; applicable only if made by jerks.

[andy-hughes]

jim - // Let me put it this way, Andy: leaving this example aside, in which I'll grant you the issue of Jamie Oliver cooking jerk rice is not really worth kicking up a fuss about, it would be a brave man who walked up to, say, Aboriginal Australians or Native Americans and told them to stop fussing about their culture being appropriated, and that they were just attention-seeking media asterisks with too much time and not enough social conscience. //

That is not the issue we are discussing though - is it?

We are not talking about Native Americans, or Aborigines, we are talking an MP making a fuss about a telly chef, so shifting the parameters of the argument does not bolster your case one bit.

The simple fact is 'cultural appropriation is a stupid trendy right-on buzz phrase for attention-seeking right-on numpties to trot out in inappropriate circumstances to prove how supposedly sensitive and empathetic they are.

More than that - it detracts from any genuine grievances which could be discussed without the use of a stupid label, which sets up the two sides of the argument before anything meaningful has been said at all.

[andy-hughes]

jim - // it would be a brave man who walked up to, say, Aboriginal Australians or Native Americans and told them to stop fussing about their culture being appropriated, and that they were just attention-seeking media asterisks with too much time and not enough social conscience.//

But it never is the supposedly 'robbed' people who make a fuss is it? It's always right-on attention-seeking uninvolved parties who have to take to Twitface and make a noise about themselves.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // so' by that rule andy...

Can i set up a chicken market stand titled "African chicken" when the chicken, nor I am African?

Say the chicken has a little bit of spice.. but is not specifically african spiced? //

You would need to ask jim, not me, he is the one who gives his mental energies to this nonsense, as far as I am concerned you can open what you like and sell what you like, I really couldn't care less!!

(LOL!)

[Togo]

Can a restaurant put French Fries on the menu if they are made in Manchester...…..and what about French Letters? I suggest you all stick to the Karma restaurants and cafes. There is no menu, you just get what you deserve.

[Togo]

You can also get Moon and Space Dust type sweets. Just wait until the real aliens get hold of that one.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // " I really couldn't care less!! "

Is that because you are not african? //

No, it's because I have more important things to think about, like putting the things in my fridge in alphabetical order ...

[Prudie]

We never invaded and took over France (did we?) so we can call things French whenever we like

[naomi24]

What a complete load of nonsense all this is.

[jim360]

It's disappointing that you can't even be bothered to research into something before you blithely dismiss it, Andy.

Just to be clear, Prudie, I'm not saying that UK citizens "cannot" use these things; it would be closer to my intended meaning to say "should be more aware of the history behind" instead, in your post last page.

[andy-hughes]

What really grinds me gears with this nonsense is that the trendy lentil-steamers feel that they have to adopt a position of apology because people are 'appropriating' something from a country or territory that was subjugated centuries ago.

This takes the rather pompous approach to descendants that we still see ourselves as the superior nation, which is why we need t apologise to what must, by default, be an inferior nation.

If I was a Jamaican, I would not take kindly at all to anyone looking down on me or my culture with their snooty pseudo right-on 'apologising' for something that was over and done with before I was born.

[naomi24]

Jim, //"should be more aware of the history behind"//

For crying out loud! The woman is talking about cooking rice! Both she - and the people who jump on this ludicrous bandwagon in support of this nonsense - need to get a grip on reality!

[jim360]

I should point out that I joined in this thread not because of the original topic (ie, Dawn Butler's tweet), but to respond to Andy's "best" answer, which refers to the bigger picture and which is completely inaccurate.

[andy-hughes]

jim - // It's disappointing that you can't even be bothered to research into something before you blithely dismiss it, Andy. //

I don't need your patronising 'disappointment' Jim, I am not in your class at school.


I am not 'blithely dismissing' anything.

I am saying that the notion of 'cultural appropriation' is bandied around by people with not only a mis-placed sense of their need to apologise for their history, but more importantly, an over-developed sense of ego that leads them to think that they are the only ones who have noticed that our nation behaved appallingly in the past, and that they are the only ones who care, and they have to take to any media outlet to bleat about it, drawing attention to themselves in the process, which is actually their main motivation in the first place.

That is colossal arrogance, and I have no time for it.

[andy-hughes]

jim - // I should point out that I joined in this thread not because of the original topic (ie, Dawn Butler's tweet), but to respond to Andy's "best" answer, which refers to the bigger picture and which is completely inaccurate. //

First of all, the accuracy of my answer is a matter of opinion, not fact, so please don't dismiss it as though you have the definitive say on this subject.

I joined this thread because the sight of the phrase 'cultural appropriation' instigates a Pavolvian response in me - the need to jump on it and laugh it out of existence.