Isis Terrorist Gets His Just Deserts.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/31/man-jailed-for-life-for-plot-to-kill-theresa-may-naaimur-zakariyah-rahman

I wonder why there is no photograph of him?

[hereIam]

Sorry to hijack your thread aog - naomi, got tickets for Let It Be for next Saturday, can't wait ...

[naomi24]

Ooooo .... wish I woz there with you!!! I'd love to see it again! Let me know how it goes.

Sorry aog.

[hereIam]

Will do x Sorry again aog x

[Jackdaw33]

Things were done differently in the UK. There was only one appeal (very rarely two). If appeals failed you were at the mercy of the Home Secretary. Average time between sentence and execution was six weeks.

[Mamyalynne]

Perhaps those who want the return of capital punishment and the added pleasure of mutilating the corpse afterwards should lobby their MP.

Until such time, this is a decent sentence under our system.

[LadyCG]

There's an example here, Naomi, based on research done in Oklahoma.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

That said, capital punishment was a swifter process over here before its abolition.

[naomi24]

LadyCG, that doesn't relate solely to the cost of execution.

[andres]

I don't give a damn as to what he thinks he will gain by being put to death. He'll find out when it's too late. Just get rid of these vermin.

[LadyCG]

All the costs relate to execution.

The question we should really be asking is, "Is capital punishment a deterrent?"

Despite my flippant remarks earlier I am not a supporter of the death penalty. However we are watching a lawless society take shape and one needs to ask what should be done to turn this around.

[rowanwitch]

Community service working in a pig farm for the last part of his sentence, that should make the bit proceeding so much more of a torment

[Khandro]

Is the length of sentence (and nothing wrong with this one) proportionate to how elevated in society the intended victim is? I don't recall a sentence of so long for other plotters.

"Until now the courts have depended largely on guidelines issued by the Court of Appeal in 2016 in the case of Mohammed Abdul Kahar, who was jailed for trying to recruit others to fight for Isis.

In that case, the guidelines said the lowest level terror offence carried a sentencing range of between 21 months and five years. By contrast, the shortest sentence within the new guidelines is three to six years.

The guidelines do not directly cover acts of terrorism that cause death or injury since these would result in murder or assault charges, but they can be used to inform the sentencing of those crimes."

Financial Times

[hereIam]

Doubt it, this scum would probably be cruel to the poor pigs.

[naomi24]

LadyCG, //All the costs relate to execution. //

The costs relate to the whole proceedings - not just to the actual execution..

//The Oklahoma study reviewed 184 first-degree murder cases from Oklahoma and Tulsa counties in the years 2004-2010 and analyzed costs incurred at the pre-trial, trial, sentencing, and post-sentencing (appeals and incarceration) stages//

[Theland]

Oh come on ABers!
Didn't any of you ever see Steve McQueen in, "Papillon?"
I bet his incarceration cost coppers!

[fender62]

naomi24, injection mmm all the islamists in jail need a vet, or a halal butcher there preferred method.

[douglas9401]

I wonder if Dancin' Terry has a thought on the sentence.

[sandyRoe]

Have the authorities used agent provocateurs to imprison a man who might otherwise have never seen the inside of a cell?

[LadyCG]

Naomi, we can argue the to5s over this one or just agree to disagree, but where the death penalty is sought, passed down in judgement and carried out, it generally costs 3.2 times the cost of life without parole. Ergo, it costs far more in the long-run to execute a felon than just imprison him for the rest of his natural life.

If I'm wrong, I apologise in advance. I'm runny on empty today.

[LadyCG]

*Running* for fluff's sake.

[naomi24]

Okay.