Are Zionists In The Uk Out To Stifle Any Criticism...

[sandyRoe]

...of Israel?

[Theland]

Definitely not.
The historical facts show up the lies and duplicity of the Palestinians so only lies will enable criticism of Israel.

[jim360]

It should, in principle, be possible to criticise Israeli politics without being anti-Semitic. In practice, however, it's rare to find one without the other.

[sandyRoe]

So if i feel anger when i hear that Israel gives permission to build more 'facts on the ground' on land that is owned by Palestinians, I'm a Jew hater?

[Zacs-Master]

Not necessarily, but you’d be painted as one.

[jim360]

I don't think you *should* be painted as one, I hasten to add, but I do think that a great deal of Israeli criticism, sadly, walks hand-in-hand with a general anti-Semitic sentiment.

[jno]

I think the creation of Israel was a disaster; but I have nothng against Jews. But I've been accused of antisemitism on AB for saying so.

In short, I think the answer is yes.

[Theland]

Oh dear jno read your history. The Jews had a legitimate claim to the land, the Palestinians did not.

[jno]

the Jews' claim to the land was that God told them they could have it. If anyone should happen to be there already, the Israelites were told to destroy them. And they did. Not a Canaanite was left.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

I expect if I was a Zionist (I'm not, I'm not Jewish) I would certainly be accused of it. Zionists have my full support as I too believe in a national homeland for the Jews and the state of Israel.

As regards the "Jew-hating" narrative, it is important to draw a distinction between the Israeli government and the Jewish people- they are not one and the same. One can show displeasure and disagreement with the Israeli government without being anti-semitic.

What is anti-semitic is when people (ie politicians like Corbyn and the maverick far-left of Labour) make generalisations about Jews or Zionists.

[johnk]

Criticism of any religion or race whether deserved or not will bring the PC brigade pouring out of the woodwork

[10ClarionSt]

I think the Israelis still carry a torch for what happened in WW2 and would do the same to certain others if they thought they could get away with it internationally. I've said this for many years.

[ToraToraTora]

most of the criticism of Israel comes because it will insist on robust defence against terrorists. There is also the whole "who owns the region" mythology, that doesn't help either.

[Old_Geezer]

I've not followed the Labour debacle so I'm probably not in the best position to judge (but, as a casual observer, I've seen accusations and no convincing evidence), however one does get the impression that many are trying to make criticism of Israel, or anything related to jews, unacceptable. So, maybe so, sandy.

[Quizmonster]

As Jno said at 00.45, the Jews' claim to the land - most of which they now occupy and much of which they have effectively "stolen" from rightful owners, then built on and occupied - is an ancestral belief that God said they could have it!
And no, I'm not an anti-Semite. I just think that, "God promised us" is a pretty slim excuse for any sort of legal claim in this more secular...and rational...day and age.,

[ToraToraTora]

rightful owners? Israel has been there for 3000 years!

[youngmafbog]

In answer to the OP I suspect some are out to stifle criticism.

However COB has gone far beyond that and that is the problem.

[baza]

Can someone tell me when Israel stole the land from their rightful owners ?

[sandyRoe]

baza, here's one example.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

[ludwig]

The answer is yes. Any supporters of anything are usually out to stifle criticism of it.

[baza]

sandy, read all that and it goes back the unrest around 1947/48 when both sides were a bit iffy, I just thought it was more recent.