More Broken Britain?

[youngmafbog]

Something needs to be done about this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6169859/Masked-thugs-throw-moped-rider-bike-repeatedly-stomp-head.html

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat
/// Yes, it was reported on BBC Northamptonshire, though.
And *not* BBC National News.....after all, you weren't aware of it, were you? ///

Why should I be I don't live in Northampton.
A mass bar brawl that took place nearly 4 years ago, and although 6 stabbings took place, no one was killed, can hardly be used in comparison to all those ongoing ones in London, where at one stage overtook those in New York City.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

/// I hope my explanation passed muster? ///

Oh I apologise, I was unaware that one could copy and paste another's post and place it in another section.
I take it that the 'muster' was a typing error?

[jackthehat]

That's precisely my point, AOG.

Years ago you wouldn't have heard about all the recent ones, either. It doesn't mean they didn't happen just that there weren't the news agencies or vehicles to make everyone in the country aware of them.

As far as I am concerned there is no crime, whatsoever, occurring in the Outer Hebrides.......because I don't hear about it.
If there was a sudden flurry of reports of criminality in Stornaway I may, too, wonder why violence there has increased.

[Mamyalynne]

Anyone can copy and paste on AB and many do it on a regular basis, as I said I asked Jordy if he wanted help and he did and I brought his answer to the right place.

Pass muster

Def

be accepted as adequate or satisfactory.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

I still don't think you have got it, no matter where in the UK the killings on the scale that are happening in London, would be reported on all over the UK.

/// Years ago you wouldn't have heard about all the recent ones, either. It doesn't mean they didn't happen just that there weren't the news agencies or vehicles to make everyone in the country aware of them. ///

As for the historic and often used excuse, "it is because there weren't the news agencies or vehicles to make everyone in the country aware of them".

How did the general public ever get to hear of Jack the Ripper, Doctor Crippen, John Haigh, John Cristie or Ruth Ellis for example?

[Jordyboy9]

Anotheroldgit ,can we please add James Craig to your list in my opinion one of the worst injustice of all time ,when Bentley was hung .

[jackthehat]

Those were 5 of the most high profile cases occurring in London starting in 1888 up to 1955.....
I'd say 5 in 67 years wasn't particularly significant, wouldn't you?

But....those particular crimes were well beyond the more 'common' sort of killings.

This country is exceedingly (and far too much, in my opinion) London-centric. If you extrapolate that what is occurring in London is happening right across the country then, of course, it all seems to be a dreadful explosion in violence has occured.....when it hasn't.

You might also start to believe that every house in the country costs over £500,000....

[anotheoldgit]

Jordyboy9

To say nothing of Timothy Evans, who was hanged and unlike Bentley was no involved in any crime.

[retrocop]

I have,in my late fathers scrapbook, a newspaper clipping with a photograph of him escorting a uniformed soldier (AWOL) into court to face a charge of murder. He had entered the home of a GP in sleepy Edgeware Middx and murdered both GP and wife. I doubt if anyone in Notts or The Midlands had even heard of Edgeware. This item made front page of a, then, National paper.The Sunday Sketch I think without bothering to dig it out.
Advance 60 years and my eldest son used to be a door manager at Lloyd's Bar Croydon just down the road. He had to purchase body armour because of the weekly drive-by shootings. These did not make any pages in the nationals and rareley got second page in the Croydon Guardian.Crimes of violence has increased and it is getting out of control as are our prisons.

[andy-hughes]

I think the media attitude to violence has altered - they are more keen to report it in a lurid style, backing it up with buzz phrases like 'Broken Britain'.

Add in the use of social media, and I believe it is the media, and by association, the population's, obsession with violence that has increased, far more than the violence itself.

[Jackdaw33]

Christie was known as Reginald and Craig was Christopher.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

I am not addressing the sporadic crime across the country, but the increasing and beyond any such rise in crime, that is accruing in London on an almost daily basis.

Why is it that some refuse to address this problem?

[Zacs-Master]

I think we’re full circle back to your ‘police/army on the streets’ post, AOG.

[jackthehat]

The attack in the OP happened in Birmingham, AOG, not in London...

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

It is not a buzz phrase, Britain is really broken, and unfortunately cannot now be repaired.
Believe me, I have lived in Britain for well over 80 years and it never was, like it is now.

Yes some will say what about 6 years of war? That is true those weren't all pleasant years, but at least we knew then, that if we fought hard enough we could get our country back to how it was previously, today we cannot say that.

[Zacs-Master]

Alf Garnett lives.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// The attack in the OP happened in Birmingham, AOG, not in London... ///

I am aware of that, even though in London such a thing is not unknown.

I was steered into mentioning the crime rate in London in particular, by my arch AOG stalker.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

Why don't the likes of you grow up?

If you continue to stalk me, I will have no other alternative, but to ignore your childish games.

[Zacs-Master]

‘I was steered into mentioning the crime rate in London in particular, by my arch AOG stalker‘

Haaaaaaaa! Steered into. And I thought you were your own man AOG, stalwart and steadfast. I’m surprised at your admission that you can be so easily manipulated.

[Zacs-Master]

‘The likes of you’. snigger.