Another Referendum

[Georgiesmum]

Yet more talk about a second referendum on television tonight.Do you think we will end up and have another one?

[ToraToraTora]

that's what I don understand ich, we ave already voted to leave so if we vote on the terms we are just deciding how to leave. Or are you proposing the exact same referendum as we have already had?

[AuntLydia]

I personally know quite a few people who voted to leave on the back of the troubles at Calais. They did not even think about the economics or logistics of leaving, as long as johnny foreigner was kept at bay at our borders. Those people, bar none, have changed their minds and have told me if there was another referendum they would vote to remain.

[Tilly2]

Same here, AL.

[Togo]

^^Another unverifiable, "I know a bloke who knows someone in the know " post. The remoaners call it scientific analysis mind.

[Mamyalynne]

I sincerely hope there is another referendum.

Yours a Remainer.

Well go me, I can actually spell it right.

[Tilly2]

I can verify it because I have heard people say it.

[Mamyalynne]

That will teach me , Ha.


I sincerely hope there is not another referendum.


I've had as much as I can stomach.

[sandyRoe]

When we vote in a general election we know that we'll have another chance to express our opinion in 4 or 5 years. When we opine in a referendum is that supposed to last forever?

[AuntLydia]

I can verify it because I was the only one in my whole family who voted to remain and now have to listen to them all complaining about how they were not given the true meaning of 'leave' and how they wish they could vote again!

[Jackdaw33]

No, but a lot longer than two short years!

[ToraToraTora]

" When we opine in a referendum is that supposed to last forever? " - nope, the going rate is about 43 years sandy.

[Mamyalynne]

Is it only two years Jack?

Feels like decades.

[Spicerack]

There won't be an EU to rejoin. We're abandoning a sinking ship.
And thousands of ex remainers personally told me that^. Which proves it's a fact.

[Theland]

I still cannot understand why anybody would wish to remain in the EU, or allow them any influence over us whatsoever, when the Euro Superstate is so undemocratic?
I thought our politicians were democrats first and foremost?
Can any body untangle this for me?

[Jackdaw33]

\\\ I thought our politicians were democrats first and foremost? \\\

Now you're having a Turkish, as TTT would say.

[Theland]

Turkish bath? Turkish delight? What?

[Jackdaw33]

Turkish bath (baff) - Cockney for laugh.

[Theland]

Oh dear. Time and energy wasting cockney slang. I see.

[New Judge]

"When we opine in a referendum is that supposed to last forever?"

We had a referendum in 1975 on the question of whether to remain in the (then) EEC. I don't recall anyone then suggesting that it should be revisited at regular intervals. In fact the result has lasted for forty-three years (and counting) and would have lasted a lot longer than that but for Mr Farage and his mates continually striving to get us out of the undemocratic car crash that the EU has become.
The EU (and its predecessors) has not been particularly economically advantageous to the UK. In other respects it has been positively disastrous. The best it can be described as is "convenient". Convenient for politicians because many of the issues effecting the country which they should be rightly debating determining have been transferred elsewhere. Convenient for businesses because it saved them the tiresome problems associated with dealing with foreign countries which normal countries have to endure.

The price for that convenience has been mainly paid by people who gained no advantage from it and they decided they had had enough. It is foolish to suggest that the country, having decided on a different direction, should suddenly reverse its decision simply because implementing it is a bit tricky (principally caused by the UK wanting to retain many of the conveniences mentioned above and the EU's quite understandable wish to see them withdrawn unless considerable concessions are made). The decision's been made. The government needs to get on with it, bearing in mind what leaving the EU should actually mean. Maybe in forty-odd years the issue can be revisited once the new arrangements have had time to bed in.

[ToraToraTora]

don't get your Alans in a Brahms theland