Remainer Bid To Force Corbyn To Back Brexit Referendum Is Blocked At Labour Conference

[youngmafbog]

as his allies say staying in the EU would NOT be an option even if national vote is held

Oh dear, I thought everyone says it is The Torties who are split.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6200575/Corbyn-allies-KILL-push-Labour-fresh-Brexit-referendum.html

[Zacs-Master]

Ah yes, the torties. Gotta watch em.

[youngmafbog]

OK, you can spot a spelling mistake, some of us dont have all day to post.

Any opinion on the actual post?

[dannyk13]

So what would they be voting on?

[youngmafbog]

From what I can glean from the article I think that is at the heart of Labours problem Danny.

[dannyk13]

They seem to have multiple problems at the moment.

[anotheoldgit]

Corbyn ain't no saint. :0)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/09/24/10/4510758-6200575-image-a-13_1537782536233.jpg

[jim360]

This is where I'd post about my undying support for the current opposition...

if we had one!!!!

[mushroom25]

i like torties. they're certainly more attractive than any politician of any party. https://previews.123rf.com/images/eblisgalea/eblisgalea1802/eblisgalea180200177/96396378-portrait-of-beautiful-long-hair-tortoiseshell-cat-with-yellow-eyes.jpg
Brexit isn't a party issue - both sides of the spectrum are split. Mr Corbyn claims labour would get a better deal if given the chance, but it's likely anything proposed would be just as poisonous to some a Chequers.

[Ellipsis]

I think they/Gina Miller/Tory Remainers are looking for a vote with a choice of ...

* No deal Brexit
* Whatever deal is agreed Brexit (difficult to see any deal being agreed at present but there you go)
* Remain (no Brexit)

That's clearly an unfair vote unless it's on some kind of AV basis ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

[dannyk13]

I think there should be referendum as to whether Gina Miller should be gagged.

[jim360]

K.

[youngmafbog]

Is she into BSDM then?

[Hopkirk]

His advisers are wise. Labour party members may want to stay in the EU.

However a high proportion of potential Labour voters voted to leave.

If Labour are seen to ignore that, an awful lot of people would be unable to forgive.

If the Conservatives were the only party to support following the Brexit mandate, they could clean up.

[Zacs-Master]

‘Is she into BSDM then?’

Nice intellectual way to move the debate on.

[jim360]

"Brexit Derided by Stubborn Malcontent"?

[gulliver1]

Oh dear , Who is this Naughty Tortie Party , then ? are they recruiting new members ?.

[Jackdaw33]

What is this nonsense about a 'People's vote?' Who voted in the last one, then?

[youngmafbog]

Deplorables JD. Come on you should know that.

You need to vote correctly, now get doen that booth and do it!

[Jackdaw33]

^^ LOL.

[Ellipsis]

We voted in the last one for something. We still don't know what, as there is no deal agreed yet. It also seems unlikely that a deal will be agreed, especially given the makeup of our current Parliament which is simply not built to deliver Brexit.

What we've got as a result of the vote is 2 years of Parliament doing very little on anything else but Brexit. A dereliction of its day-to-day duty. That's been the main outcome of the last vote so far.

At some point in the near future we may know more about what's proposed, which is more than we know now and way more than we knew before the first vote, so another vote could be seen as reasonable, where:

* vote 1 was to kick off the process, put the day-to-day on hold and get to the point of agreeing deal/no deal/remain
* vote 2 was to choose one of those three options

Can we really trust Parliament to deliver Brexit? Whereas an AV referendum on those three options would deliver the one that most voters favoured.