Would It Restore Ukip's Popularity If If Tommy Robinson Joined The Party?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tommy-robinson-ukip-party-membership-debate-gerard-batten-a8525471.html

[jim360]

No.

[emmie]

not a chance.

[Old_Geezer]

Would send it into a downward spiral.
Is Kilroy Silk still around ?

[andy-hughes]

Unlikely.

'Tommy Robinson' claims to have disavowed racism, but he is still dogged by his football hooligan knucle-dragging yob following, and I doubt any political party would want them in tow.

[spathiphyllum]

Is he qualified to be in such a position? Do we want criminals in politics? Blair was bad enough...

[spathiphyllum]

It's FINE to have opinions.. However his are not educated on solid facts, it's his conspiracy theory

[ichkeria]

It seems bizarre to be having a debate to offer anyone membership regardless of who it is. Generally someone will apply to join or may be asked discreetly.
What this really is about is debating the true nature of UKIP: under Batten they are already going down the EDL path: they will not poll 4 million votes again that way.

[naomi24]

Probably not.

Spath, which of his opinions are "not educated on solid facts"?

[douglas9401]

You don't seem to be grasping what 'joined the party' means, S..um.

[andy-hughes]

It could be interesting to see how 'Tommy' gets on in the real world, where he can be held to account for his views and actions by people who know what they are talking about - not the brain-dead football-chanting yobs who make up the core of his support, and simply like banding together, making noise, shouting racial abuse at British citizens, and hitting police officers because it's their idea of a good day out.

[youngmafbog]

AH, have you actually listened to what he says?

Much of it resonates with the man on the street, it's just the thuggish following that stops him.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - // AH, have you actually listened to what he says? //

Yes I have.

// Much of it resonates with the man on the street, it's just the thuggish following that stops him. //

Resonating with the man on the street does not make him right - it wasn't right when Hitler did it, it's not right now.

Pushing the buttons of the great unwashed does not take a huge amount of skill - but maintaining the façade that you genuinely have something worthwhile to say, is a different matter.

'Tommy's' appeal to the frightened uneducated mass who see him as some sort of gifted saviour pointing out the obvious has a limited time span - I suspect his days as a rabble rouser are limited.

[youngmafbog]

"Pushing the buttons of the great unwashed does not take a huge amount of skill"

And here we go again, I am superior to thou so my view stands yours does not is what you are saying.

"Resonating with the man on the street does not make him right"

The man on the street tends to be the majority. I take iyt from your statement you are not a fan of democracy.

Trying to link the man on the street to Hitler really crashes any credibility you had.

[Zacs-Master]

Possibly the most bizarre debate / suggestion I've ever seen.

[Zacs-Master]

'The man on the street tends to be the majority.' Yes, but they all have different opinions. Assuming they all think as one is staggeringly stupid.

[fender62]

does tommy robinson have a job or is he on the dole ?

[youngmafbog]

I didnt say that though ZM did I?

As usual you have twisted a post to suit your own warped agenda of slagging as many AB'ers as possible.

Not a nice person sometimes are you?

[youngmafbog]

He owns a sunbed shop in Luton

[Zacs-Master]

Yes you did say that. it was a direct copy of what you wrote at 13:26. I sometimes wonder whether you 'sleep write' or just don't actually think about what you're putting. Robinson resonates with a minority of those 'on the street'. they can't be called the majority. And you therefore can't use that to counter AH's post. It's completely nonsensical.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

I think that you will find the ones that refuse to listen to 'the man & women in the street, are the frightened uneducated mass.