Rude Baby Refuses To Apologise To Lady...

[Spicerack]

after viscously kicking her on train.
I blame the parents.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/19/woman-threatened-to-stab-baby-on-packed-tube-after-it-kicked-her-from-pram-8055642/?ito=twitter

[jackthehat]

I'll repost, TGT...... just for you.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7535527/student-cleared-baby-knife-after-kicked-packed-tube-train/

[ToraToraTora]

ok so if she did not threaten to stab the baby when will they be prosecuting the mother for perjury/perverting the course of justice?

[ToraToraTora]

""Where I grew up you don't make an empty threat. You don't say you have a knife for no reason." - so she was carrying a knife, will she be prosecuted for that?
""I felt like it was a racist attack. I am just saying if I were a white person and I asked them to apologise they would have apologised." - now there's a surprise!

[jackthehat]

Like I say, some people can't move passed their own prejudices.....

[THECORBYLOON]

TTT, who are you wanting prosecuted for carrying a knife?

[jno]

///"Where I grew up you don't make an empty threat. You don't say you have a knife for no reason." - so she was carrying a knife///

try reading the paragraph again, TTT, you may have overlooked something

[Barmaid]

It doesnt follow that the complainant was lying. On a packed tube train, in stressful circumstances it is entirely possible that things were misheard or perceived differently by different witnesses. An honest witness can be mistaken.

You only have to look at the number of times people are misquoted on here or deliberately misunderstood to suit one person's agenda. And there is less of an excuse on here given people can refresh their memories rather than try and recall a heated argument.

[ToraToraTora]

JTT: show me the prejudice? I've asked logical questions.
TCL the woman who was acquitted admitted having a knife.
jno: How can that be mis interpreted? she was saying that her threat was not empty, ergo she had a knife.

[jackthehat]

TGT - She said the woman with the baby claimed to have the knife.....you really *do* need to read things properly.

[ToraToraTora]

ok fair enough, spotted it, it was the woman with the baby saying it, apologies for mis reading.

[Barmaid]

Or she was saying she didnt make the threat at all.

But apologies i forget that this is the far right keyboard warrior wing of the edl.......

[THECORBYLOON]

"She had a bag crossed over her. She moved in front and she is fumbling inside her bag and she says: 'I have got a knife in my bag' and I said you better use it then.

"Where I grew up you don't make an empty threat. You don't say you have a knife for no reason"

[jno]

of course if your question is "why isn't the woman with the baby being prosecuted for having a knife?" ... I don't know.

[THECORBYLOON]

Maybe because there's no proof she was carrying a knife?

[ToraToraTora]

jno I think the woman with the baby was simply believing that the woman who said she had the knife was truthful because "where I grew up you don't make empty threats" - it has not been established that a knife was present at all so we can drop that. However as the alleged purp was acquitted it would seem that the accuser was lying and therefore liable for prosecution for perjury/perverting the course of justice/waiting police time etc.

[THECORBYLOON]

The fact that someone isn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean the accuser has lied, merely that the evidence is not robust enough to support a conviction.

[Spicerack]

Barmaid
//Screens are common in many cases. Particularly where there are allegations of violence, threats or sexual assaults.//

THECORBYLOON
///There's your answer.///

I do beg your pardons. I must admit I didn't know screens were common in courts. I thought they were used to protect witnesses from reprisals.
I knew Ms Barnes brother had been stabbed to death 2 weeks earlier and just guessed that had some bearing on the reason.
What do I know.

[jackthehat]

That's not how it works, TGT.

The Courts' system would grind to a halt if prosecutions were to be made against people involved in 'failed' cases. Would you also prosecute witnesses for the defence, accusing them of perjury, if a case was proven?

And then what would happen when cases were appealed?

A case was sent to court, all evidence listened to and a judgement made. Why is it so difficult for you (plural) to understand?

[jno]

well, I stick with my answer way back at the top of page 1 ... that this was just people from south London being obnoxious. Thank heavens none of them is ever likely to get a visa to cross the river.

[jackthehat]

You don't know anything, spicerack, but you are doing your damnedest to ensure that connections are made which suit your view.