What They Said (And Thought) On The 'peoples March'

[Khandro]

Really beggars belief, for example, did you know that Britain will resemble North Korea after Brexit?
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/what-i-learned-at-the-peoples-vote-march/

[spathiphyllum]

parliament don't want a deal so that the EU is forced to deal with the irish border because if the UK do then it will cause a lot of tension for ireland which the UK don't want on their heads.

[Old_Geezer]

There is nothing legitimate the UK can do. The issue is the EU border not the national RoI/NI one, regardless that it's the same place. Thus only the EU can sort it. Got nothing to do with the UK not dealing with it, they've made suggestions.

[spathiphyllum]

I personally think that it is the UK who want a soft border in NI but the EU want a hard one. If the UK implement a hard border between ROI and NI then imagine the chaos not only with trades, but with irish people crossing the border. ROI would not be part of the UKs independence. The UK do not want to have to deal with the Irish border situation, UK wants a no deal, forcing the EU to deal with it.

[spathiphyllum]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1627940.html

[Old_Geezer]

Problem is that no individual nor group has sufficient support in the Tory party at present so they are complicate in keeping the status quo and risking wandering into the worst possible lack of agreed compromise which will take decades to sort out properly. And I see no reasonable legitimate arguments for a further public vote at all. The government governs and they're obliged to represent the stated view of the people. It's not like we're asked often, it's unacceptable to ask again on the same issue.

[Old_Geezer]

"If the UK implement a hard border between ROI and NI"

IF

There's no reason for us to do so, although I suspect use and abuse would be monitored. Deal or no deal is not relevant. If the EU and it's member state, the RoI prefer and opt to create a hard border, that is their decision.

[spathiphyllum]

it's not the same issue. We've voted to leave, now lets vote on how.

[Old_Geezer]

But there is no alternative 'how' yet. So far there's 'no deal', which takes us out, but aside from that there's only 'stay in but take our name off the members' list', which isn't out. Anyway, the big decision was given to the public who opted to leave, that's been made: it's the government that is elected to deal with the details on our behalf.

[New Judge]

"NJ, please stop commenting on my threads, especially when all you can muster is a stupendously ignorant one."

I didn't know this was your thread, Zacs. However, I will comment on any that I see fit, whether yours or not. You may not agree with my views but in this particular instance (i.e. that no deal is better than what seems to be on offer) they concur with those of a number of prominent politicians and business people. I assume you consider them to be equally stupendously ignorant. You're free to debate my views and shoot them down. You're not free to stifle them and that's the last comment I'll make on such a suggestion.

"If the UK implement a hard border between ROI and NI"

Hell will freeze over before that happens. It will also freeze over before Ireland does so. Any talk of a hard border in Ireland (by anybody other than the Euromaniacs, who have neither the resources at their command nor the authority to impose one) is simply nonsense.

[Zacs-Master]

'I assume you consider them to be equally stupendously ignorant'

Correct.

[New Judge]

Oh well. 'Nuff said.

[ichkeria]

“Parliament don’t want a deal”
Do you mean “government” ??
“Parliament” is a broad church of widely differing views on Brexit whereas the gov ...
Oh hang on ...