Is May's Deal Better Than A No Deal Exit?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045522/brexit-deal-explained-theresa-may-eu-brexit-news-b

[vetuste_ennemi]

//The fact that lots of people believe something does not make it less wrong//

Not exactly the point being made. One of us needs to work on something.

[ichkeria]

If there is another referendum I agree: “No deal” should not be an option. And I don’t think it would be. I don’t like Brexit and this deal is far far from ideal but it was never ever going to be. People were saying all along that there’d have to be a transition period and that would not please the hardliners. Nor would it appeal to those non Brexiters or anyone else who are merely sceptical that the U.K. can exit the transition period in a reasonable time frame.
However out of the following immediate options:
@ Deal passed by Parliament
@ May voted out by Tory MPs
@ No deal passed by Parliament
@ Brussels agrees to renegotiate
@ General election
@ Referendum

the second is the least unlikely - I still wouldn’t bet my house on it not happening. The only other way I can see Brexit happening is if the people vote for the living breathing monster they spawned in 2016

[ichkeria]

FIRST is least unlikely

[Togo]

""Alternative for Germany (AfD) MP Petr Bystron has blamed the Brexit failures of UK Prime Minister Theresa May on the attitudes of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the European Union who he labelled “stubborn” and “unhelpful.”
Mr Bystron, who acts as Spokesman for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) on the Foreign Policy Committee of the German Bundestag, said that much of the blame for the outcome of the Brexit negotiations rested on Dr Merkel and her government.
“Theresa May’s tragic failure is in large part due to the intransigent attitude of the Berlin government under Angela Merkel, who refused to negotiate constructively with the British government. While Theresa May tried valiantly to reach a compromise solution with Berlin and Brussels, Angela Merkel said two years ago there could be ‘No cherry-picking’ in Brexit negotiations,” he said.""

[New Judge]

"Angela Merkel said two years ago there could be ‘No cherry-picking’ in Brexit negotiations,” he said.""

Nor should there be. That's why "no deal" is the only was to ensure a proper Brexit.

[Old_Geezer]

If foolish enough to take no-deal off the table one has given out the equivalent of a blank cheque. The other side can demand anything they wish and you either have to go along with it or stay (if thry let you) under the terms they demand. Clearly unacceptable.

Then, considering the situation further, with both our PM and the EU refusing to renegotiate the plan to embroil the UK further into the EU thus ensuring we haven't left, the only deal Planned for is also clearly unacceptable.

No deal is the ONLY valid option left to us. Not by choice but by necessity due to the way those involved ignored what was needed and worked their best to prevent us genuinely leaving. So we may as well abandon talks and get on with preparing to just leave. Politicians and businessfolk will simply have to clear up the mess, that remainer actions ensured, after the event.