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Do you believe in fair and equal treatment for those entering banks, relating to showing their face for security reasons? Yes or no? The person wearing the motorbike helmet merely asked a question. Perhaps the answer should have been, of course the person hiding their face with a burkha should be allowed to do so, but not for the person wearing the bike helmet, because it's 'kind of'against the law to ask them to take their clothes off?! Riiiiiiggggggght!
Spath, if you do not want me to take your remarks seriously then please post to whom you are addressing your remarks to.
OK Danny I will bear that in mind for next time. Sorry.
Hey, Spath. When do you start work today?

Or any day?
"It's kind of illegal to force someone to take off their clothes when going into a building.."

Really?

I've visited a number of buildings in central London (including the Royal Albert Hall) where I have been asked to remove my overcoat and on one occasion my jacket. More than that, try getting through security at any airport without removing your hat, coat, scarf, jacket, gloves, very often your shoes and occasionally even more than that. I accept that at that point you are not technically "entering a building" but simply moving to a different part of the one you're already in but the principle applies.

I hope you don't consider I'm too thick by pointing this out. There's nothing illegal or unreasonable to expect people to show their faces when entering any public establishment or for that matter a private one. (I wouldn't allow anybody into my house when masked up). The sooner Muslim women understand that people in this country do not routinely go about masked up the better. Nobody can prevent the stupidity of some women to accede to the wearing of this ridiculous garment but no special provisions should be made for them to do so.
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Spungle

/// What's the question? ///

I think that you will find that not all threads need to ask a question, generally the subject matter is enough to set off a debate as this one has proven, you yourself being a main contributor.
NJ, i'm talking about a full body gown, as you well know. which would be asking someone to stand in their underwear which is very well different to the examples you've given as i'm sure you know.
Just to correct what appears to be a misconception. The Iranian female covering to meet the traditional dress code for appearing in public is called a chador. This is in fact a single sheet of fabric cut at one side into a semicircle (the whole thing being shaped rather like a D) and it is placed with the mid point of the straight edge onto the head and then the two sides are wrapped around the body. It does not normally/necessarily cover the face although cartoonists often depict an older woman covering half the face and the whole of the mouth. The point about the older woman featuring is that the chador is a less and less often seen garment in Iran.

Underneath the chador the person is fully dressed, usually in standard clothing that would fit/match what any woman would wear in towns and cities anywhere in the world. The burqa is not seen worn by local women in Iran outside the very southeast where Arabs are among the indigenous population.
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I don't think asking someone to remove their clothing comes into it, a polite "sorry but you are not allowed into the bank dressed like that" would have sufficed.
Muslim women that i have seen have western dress under their Burkha, you can see jeans, trousers etc below the hem. The face veil is quite another thing, being that one can remove that without removing the whole headscarf.
i see more and more women wearing full niqab, hijab and burkha, none of which i like. I think its an affront to men in general to suppose that they can't keep their hands of said women. But that as they say is another story.
Karl, why are mentioning Iranian women?
Of course the Bank had an issue with the helmet, the woman was asked to remove it.
Emmie. I don't see anything wrong with the Hijab.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24118241
spath, your argument is ridiculous.... but I've no doubt you know that. Still, anything to detract from the real issue, eh? ;o)
danny, i just don't like it, or what it represents.
Emmie, the Hijab is not much different to any headscarf worn by a woman.
i find them markedly different, but hey ho, we have to agree to disagree.
danny, it's different.
spath - you could wear both together.....two negatives making a positive perhaps?

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