Snap Election Anyone?

[Togo]

Rumours of a General Election on 28th February. Could be fun.

"A General Election could be about to take place.
Three Cabinet Ministers and a further six junior Ministers have instructed their local Associations to prepare for a snap election, according to the New Statesman.
They report that four of them have named 28th February as a possible date. This could move fast.
This coincides with a separate report in the Daily Mail, that the civil service have been told to get ready and draw up plans for a sudden election. Both reports came within hours of each other, is something up?"

https://www.westmonster.com/rumours-swirl-of-snap-election-on-the-cards1/

[jim360]

The implication of Article 50 is indeed that the UK will leave on March 29th if there is no mutual agreement for an extension, or if the UK does not unilaterally revoke its notification. Since both of these are possible it's hardly the end of the story.

I just deleted another long post because it would just repeat myself, but still, there's one point worth keeping: The question for No Deal supporters is how they want this type of exit to be achieved. Trying to force it on the UK by voting down all deals, and refusing to hold votes on any alternatives, cannot be regarded as democratic.

[jim360]

Don't even post such stuff, then, Naomi. There's no need to even go down that road, or even hint at that implication.

You asked me a question, I answered it honestly and carefully; the least you could do would be to treat the answer with the same respect I treated the question. I'm hardly surprised or offended that you disagreed with me, but you've lacked manners in replying to my posts for some time.

[mushroom25]

//Trying to force it on the UK by voting down all deals, and refusing to hold votes on any alternatives, cannot be regarded as democratic. //

just wondering then if Jeremy Corbyn's tactic of trying to force a GE on the public by refusing to engage with the governing party also falls into the category of "not democratic"?

[jim360]

Well, I'm not sure how trying to call a general election can be "undemocratic", but both that and his refusal to engage with Theresa May are certainly pointless stances. Cross-party talks can break down, but to refuse to engage in them altogether is stupid.

[Togo]

Lol@mushroom 17:46....We mainiacs. :))

[Togo]

Oohh just found this....Today's Sun.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8230081/tory-ministers-general-election-february/

[Old_Geezer]

It can be called undemocratic if it's called to avoid one's democratic duty to deliver on the referendum.

[Togo]

Just think Geezer.....Her Majesty must be in a bit of a quandary. Does she just keep stum and do nothing whilst the shysters in the house of conmen and the louse of hordes finally trash the centuries of democracy that GB is famous for? Or does she close parliament, as she is still allowed to do, on the premise that they are not carrying out the wishes of the British electorate? Where is her "power" I hear them ask. Remember...….the armed forces swear allegiance to The Monarch and there may well be 17 million willing home guard members just waiting for the call to protect Britain in yet another dark and threatening period.

[New Judge]

And to think, one of the EU's proudest achievements (along with the euro and Schengen) is preserving peace across the continent! :-)

[Old_Geezer]

"Trying to force it on the UK by voting down all deals, and refusing to hold votes on any alternatives, cannot be regarded as democratic."

It can be because no discussed deals so far come close to a true exit, so can not be democratically opted for. And voting on anything that doesn't supply an exit can not be democratic either. The decision was given, the method to achieve it can not be undemocratic, unlike considering ways to thwart it would be.

[Kromovaracun]

//no discussed deals so far come close to a true exit,//

This is an opinion, not a fact. There are plenty of Brexiters who don't favour 'no-deal.'

[naomi24]

I wonder how this shameful episode in the history of this country will be recorded for posterity? An army of dutifully subservient Winston Smiths working diligently for the Ministry of Truth – despite knowing the truth.

[Khandro]

^^ Indeed. The new definition of democracy may be, the will of the minority;
https://order-order.com/2019/01/19/grieves-minority-coup-detat/