The Magnificent Seven....

[10ClarionSt]

...............or wot? Not for me. The seven MP's who've resigned are a disgrace. They're hypocrites. One of them said she was ashamed of Labour. However, they are not resigning from the commons. What do their constituents think of them? The people who voted for a Labour MP? If they didn't vote for a Labour MP, why not resign, stand again as an Independent and see how much the people want them? But it's one thing having principles. It's another putting them into practice.

[Quizmonster]

It doesn't often happen, but I am in total accord with Naomi here; steps should certainly be taken to ensure that the electorates in the constituencies of the Not-So-Magnificent-Seven should have the opportunity to decide whether they want them to continue in post, rather than merely having that foisted on them.
Whatever personal aspects their constituents may have found attractive, they certainly stood as Labour candidates and on a Labour manifesto.

[Khandro]

10c. // One of them said she was ashamed of Labour. //

Are you not surprised at this? (she's Jewish). The party has been transformed from what it once was, into an ultra left anti Semitic gang, led by the Trotskyites, Corbyn,McDonnell et al. These are the real hypocrites, who fly under the Labour flag, but are in fact closet-communists.

[ichkeria]

No they didn’t.
As I said before Mike Gapes for one issued his own manifesto prior to the official Labour one. Anyone willing to take an interest would have been in no doubt as to where they stood.
Not sure despite what he says that Corbyn would be that keen on a load of by-elections anyway. Might be embarrassing ...

[ichkeria]

The above in answer to Quizmonster, who may agree with Naomi for once but I for once agree entirely with khandro’s last post.
Is this the new politics? (!)

[Quizmonster]

I presume any candidate for election can publish a document that they refer to as their own "manifesto", but Gapes still returned to Westminster after the 2017 election as a Labour politician. We'll never know how many of his constituents even heard of his personalised version of a manifesto, never mind read or supported it.

[ichkeria]

How many read the real manifesto either?

[gulliver1]

How many read the manifesto for The referendum ,no one. Because there wasn't one , and that's why this Country is in such a mess now.

[Quizmonster]

Absolutely! Who reads official manifestoes, never mind individual ones? I assume, however, that you do not dispute Gapes was the Labour candidate for the constituency, a fact that even the least switched-on of voters would surely have been aware of, whatever he/she may or may not have read.

[Quizmonster]

My answer above was for Ichkeria.

[ichkeria]

"Do not know what the CONS are banging on about , when there leader only a few weeks ago had the biggest defeat in the "HISTORY "of Paliament."

It is interesting to note that it the high-scoring "Votes of no confidence" contest, Jeremy currently leads 172 (summer 2016) to Theresa's 117 (December 2018). It's a sobering thought that nearly 300 MPs over two parliaments voted against their leader in this way.
And suggests that while The Independent Group may prove a flash in the pan, it might be quite a big and loud one.
Lots of Labour members tweeting they've resigned from the party today. Sometimes it takes a few brave people to sacrifice themselves for others to see sense, and that goes for the Tories too.

[ichkeria]

"hat you do not dispute Gapes was the Labour candidate for the constituency, a fact that even the least switched-on of voters would surely have been aware of, whatever he/she may or may not have read"

He was, but while I am not saying that he "should not" resign I am saying very forcefully that he and the others "need" not. And as I said before not sure Corbyn would be wise to shout too loudly about it. He can pretend to want it, as he pretends to want to help with the Brexit mess.

[agchristie]

//The Independent Group may prove a flash in the pan, it might be quite a big and loud one.//

Will it have the skillet needs to succeed?

[ichkeria]

"Will it have the skillet needs to succeed?"

How I have missed your puns dear agatha :-)

[Gromit]

// Lots of Labour members tweeting they've resigned from the party today. //

I suspect that ‘Lots’ will turn out to be an insinificant total of the half a million members.

Jeremy Corbyn has hailed a 100,000-strong surge in Labour members since the EU referendum as evidence of a “political sea change” and insisted he is in tune with the new public mood.
The jump in Labour members takes the new total 503,143 – the highest number in modern history.

[ichkeria]

I don’t have the figures to hand but Labour membership has been falling significantly

[ichkeria]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/05/labour-membership-falls-10-amid-unrest-over-brexit-stance

[ToraToraTora]

I think they have shown us all what the Labour party has become, only brainwashed marxists can support Agent Cob and co, surely. Do you really want Diane Abacus as Home sec? really 10CS?

[Gromit]

Thank you Ich for correcting my figure of Labour Party members. I said it stood at 503,143, but you pointed it that it has now crashed to a meadily 512,000.

[Khandro]

Gromit; An absolute must for you! :0)

https://shop.morningstaronline.co.uk/products/morning-star-jeremy-corbyn-t-shirt

[Peter Pedant]

// But it's one thing having principles. It's another putting them into practice.//

principle of - if you dont like the party you are in then form another

you vote for an MP not a party innit?
the last fella to try to turn the general election into a presidential race was Harold Wilson ....
and he lost ( 1970 I think )