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What Antisemitism?
I have yet to hear ONE solid example of this alleged rampant antisemitism in the Labour Party. Innuendos galore, tittle-tattle and gossip, but no hard examples.
Is it just part of the ongoing anti-Corbyn campaign?
Is it just part of the ongoing anti-Corbyn campaign?
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stag; //It’s probably no worse in labour than the conservatives, but the media are or seem to be pushing anti Semititism in the Labour Party more.//
Can you substantiate that? it has never been a Tory problem, also as the media is largely leftward leaning, it would be odd for them to push Labour's alleged Antisemitism
Can you substantiate that? it has never been a Tory problem, also as the media is largely leftward leaning, it would be odd for them to push Labour's alleged Antisemitism
I don’t think Corbyn is anti Semitic as such but his cluelessness and frankly bigotry allows anti semitism to persist.
Disgraceful things are said and done and he does not act sufficiently to address it.
The man is a disgrace and not fit to lead a political party. And he is surrounded by Stalinists. Really that’s the issue.
Disgraceful things are said and done and he does not act sufficiently to address it.
The man is a disgrace and not fit to lead a political party. And he is surrounded by Stalinists. Really that’s the issue.
//Because of everyone shouting about antisemitism and apparently how awful it is so some action has to be taken.//
Spath, that's crazy talk. They're considering whether or not they should leave the party. They're threatening a mass walkout for the first time in a century. They're not having a sit-down to see what the problem is.
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Read this letter by Adam Langelben, until Monday a Labour councillor in London. He's received tons of anti-semitic abuse directly from Labour members. It got so bad that he felt it necessary to leave the party.
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It really is difficult to overstate how unusual this is. Labour is faced with the prospect of a mass walkout of Jewish members. Just imagine how bad it must be for things to have come to that.
Spath, that's crazy talk. They're considering whether or not they should leave the party. They're threatening a mass walkout for the first time in a century. They're not having a sit-down to see what the problem is.
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Read this letter by Adam Langelben, until Monday a Labour councillor in London. He's received tons of anti-semitic abuse directly from Labour members. It got so bad that he felt it necessary to leave the party.
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It really is difficult to overstate how unusual this is. Labour is faced with the prospect of a mass walkout of Jewish members. Just imagine how bad it must be for things to have come to that.
Krom the mass walk out, will see a load of antisemites walk out and join somewhere else. Do we really think corbyn is the antisemite, and this is all because of his views? It's a collective, and something corbyn is trying to sort whilst these pot stirrers make it more of an issue and drama. The party has always been torn over corbyn, half of them have never liked him, this is just ammo for their fun.
//Considering there is a jewish community in support of corbyn and a load of non jewish people //
What on earth are you talking about? The only Labour organisation for Jews is about to leave the party unless something really radical is done about the problem (and even then it might be too late). Who on earth are you to say that those people aren't Jews? What about the Jewish Labour members who have been constantly speaking up about the abuse they receive for being Jewish?
A few Jews in Momentum does not make this problem disappear. You need to really think about what you're saying.
What on earth are you talking about? The only Labour organisation for Jews is about to leave the party unless something really radical is done about the problem (and even then it might be too late). Who on earth are you to say that those people aren't Jews? What about the Jewish Labour members who have been constantly speaking up about the abuse they receive for being Jewish?
A few Jews in Momentum does not make this problem disappear. You need to really think about what you're saying.
//Do we really think corbyn is the antisemite, and this is all because of his views? //
No! I very much doubt Corbyn personally is an anti-semite. But he's clearly not all that bothered by the people in his party who are, and there are some very worrying extremists like Seamus Milne at the top of the party advising him.
Read some of the links I shared earlier and look into the cases yourself. This is not normal, spath. This is a very serious problem and I don't blame British jews for being worried about a Corbyn government.
No! I very much doubt Corbyn personally is an anti-semite. But he's clearly not all that bothered by the people in his party who are, and there are some very worrying extremists like Seamus Milne at the top of the party advising him.
Read some of the links I shared earlier and look into the cases yourself. This is not normal, spath. This is a very serious problem and I don't blame British jews for being worried about a Corbyn government.
no, What i'm saying is, if everyone who leaves the labour party has an issue with antisematism then in theory the IG group will be full of labourites who aren't antisemite? Leaving those who didn't joing apparently being the antisemites.
You have people saying labour are anti jewish who aren't jewish and you have jewish people saying they're not anti jew.. So i mean, it's a situation we can't just put on corbyn and the labour party, this is a society issue and it goes accross partys.
You have people saying labour are anti jewish who aren't jewish and you have jewish people saying they're not anti jew.. So i mean, it's a situation we can't just put on corbyn and the labour party, this is a society issue and it goes accross partys.
//You have people saying labour are anti jewish who aren't jewish and you have jewish people saying they're not anti jew//
Yes, and you also have a massive groundswell of Jews who are obviously very concerned about this. Why do you think that is, spath? Why do you think they are considering leaving for the first time in 100 years?
//What i'm saying is, if everyone who leaves the labour party has an issue with antisematism then in theory the IG group will be full of labourites who aren't antisemite? Leaving those who didn't joing apparently being the antisemites. //
Yes, I think the point of IG is to make a less anti-semitic party. It doesn't necessarily follow that everyone who is left in Labour is anti-semitic. I'm not sure what your point is.
Yes, and you also have a massive groundswell of Jews who are obviously very concerned about this. Why do you think that is, spath? Why do you think they are considering leaving for the first time in 100 years?
//What i'm saying is, if everyone who leaves the labour party has an issue with antisematism then in theory the IG group will be full of labourites who aren't antisemite? Leaving those who didn't joing apparently being the antisemites. //
Yes, I think the point of IG is to make a less anti-semitic party. It doesn't necessarily follow that everyone who is left in Labour is anti-semitic. I'm not sure what your point is.
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