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I thought that piece of excrement Bercow had blocked plans for a third vote.
How come they are now talking as if it is going to happen?
How come they are now talking as if it is going to happen?
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The Speaker is meant to have the role of representing the will of Parliament in favour of the will of Government. In that sense -- at least for the moment -- that is precisely what he is doing by saying to Theresa May, et al, that she cannot keep bringing back the same deal over and over in the hopes of whittling down the opposition a handful at a time.
Independent of Brexit, it's fairly shameful for any government to adopt that approach.
Independent of Brexit, it's fairly shameful for any government to adopt that approach.
"Independent of Brexit, it's fairly shameful for any government to adopt that approach."
Guess what, Jim? I agree - 100% (NJ retires for a lie down, suggesting Jim does likewise). :-)
The castigation of Mr Speaker (for whom I hold no brief) was out of order on two counts:
Firstly he invoked the correct Parliamentary procedure and just because the convention is 400 years old is no reason to disrespect it. The surprising thing is that a second vote was allowed on what was essentially the same proposal, never mind a third.
Secondly, the attitude demonstrated towards the Speaker seemed to suggest that everything was going swimmingly, that the acceptance of the deal was a shoe-in, and that MPs would simply rubber stamp it. In practice the deal was every bit as likely to have been resoundingly rejected for the third time of asking as it was on the previous two occasions.
Mrs May does not seem to have grasped that her deal is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, 'it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-DEAL!!
Guess what, Jim? I agree - 100% (NJ retires for a lie down, suggesting Jim does likewise). :-)
The castigation of Mr Speaker (for whom I hold no brief) was out of order on two counts:
Firstly he invoked the correct Parliamentary procedure and just because the convention is 400 years old is no reason to disrespect it. The surprising thing is that a second vote was allowed on what was essentially the same proposal, never mind a third.
Secondly, the attitude demonstrated towards the Speaker seemed to suggest that everything was going swimmingly, that the acceptance of the deal was a shoe-in, and that MPs would simply rubber stamp it. In practice the deal was every bit as likely to have been resoundingly rejected for the third time of asking as it was on the previous two occasions.
Mrs May does not seem to have grasped that her deal is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, 'it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-DEAL!!
// his job as it has been since the days of Charles I is to assert the rights of parliament against over-mighty executive power.//
queen Bess who wasnt a bad old stick
is said to have summoned the commons to dress them down and said
but not Mr Speaker as the only one who will be speaking will be me!
queen Bess who wasnt a bad old stick
is said to have summoned the commons to dress them down and said
but not Mr Speaker as the only one who will be speaking will be me!
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