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Is No Deal Now Innevitable?
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They'll only get the extension if Parliament approves the deal as is. That seems unlikely given the numbers, so shall I order the champagne for next Friday?
They'll only get the extension if Parliament approves the deal as is. That seems unlikely given the numbers, so shall I order the champagne for next Friday?
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Apparently Mrs May intends to get around it by insisting she has secured significant changes - the extension to A50 to delay Brexit.
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The rules are all so very bendable!
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The rules are all so very bendable!
Jim: "Returning to the original question:"! - thanks, it is getting a bit off track. "no, it seems that No Deal is *not* now inevitable, as the EU Council has apparently proposed a draft statement granting the UK an extension to May 22nd if the Withdrawal Agreement is accepted, and to April 12th if it is not." - So if the deal is not passed, as looks favourite, we have an extra fortnight, to do what with? How will they stop "no deal"?
Not a nice English sparkling wine?
Is that not the point of this farce?
I’m a bit late to react to douglas’s point but, no that is not the point. One of the points of leaving the EU is to enable the UK to buy its goods wherever it wants to without having to apply levels of import tariffs determined by the EU. Since its inception the EU and its predecessors were designed to protect the bloc from (what it sees as) unfair competition from abroad. At present the UK must apply this tariff (80% of which is then remitted to Brussels/Strasbourg) to any wine it imports. Only wines from the EU are tariff free. After we have left the EU (and its protectionist Customs Union) we will be able to import wine from outside the EU free of tariffs (if we choose to do so) so a level playing field for the global market will be in place.
Just to add a little more, the EU has provided millions of euros of funding into the development and promotion of European wine in recent years. but the UK has yet to see much from this. To date the funding channeled into English wine has been limited to small education programmes such as Wineskills and pockets of development funding for individual estates, including Hambledon. The sums involved have been in the thousands rather than the millions of euros that have been offered elsewhere in Europe. We can use part of our £13bn pa “subscription” (which kindly allows us to import EU wine free of tariffs) to develop our own wine industry.
Is that not the point of this farce?
I’m a bit late to react to douglas’s point but, no that is not the point. One of the points of leaving the EU is to enable the UK to buy its goods wherever it wants to without having to apply levels of import tariffs determined by the EU. Since its inception the EU and its predecessors were designed to protect the bloc from (what it sees as) unfair competition from abroad. At present the UK must apply this tariff (80% of which is then remitted to Brussels/Strasbourg) to any wine it imports. Only wines from the EU are tariff free. After we have left the EU (and its protectionist Customs Union) we will be able to import wine from outside the EU free of tariffs (if we choose to do so) so a level playing field for the global market will be in place.
Just to add a little more, the EU has provided millions of euros of funding into the development and promotion of European wine in recent years. but the UK has yet to see much from this. To date the funding channeled into English wine has been limited to small education programmes such as Wineskills and pockets of development funding for individual estates, including Hambledon. The sums involved have been in the thousands rather than the millions of euros that have been offered elsewhere in Europe. We can use part of our £13bn pa “subscription” (which kindly allows us to import EU wine free of tariffs) to develop our own wine industry.
I will continue to drink proper "Poo" from our French friends as I enjoy other products from all over the wonderful continent we inhabit. I am a huge fan of Europe, the continent, hence, by definition, I hate the evil empire that is the EU that seeks to oppress it's wonderful diversity and shoe horn it into their sith like definition of one size fits all.
This sums it up beautifully. Forensic dismantling of May's treacherous behaviour.
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