Looks Like I Was Right All Along.....

[ToraToraTora]

here is a question I posted on the night of the referendum when I thought we would lose:
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1498693.html
Little did I know our gutless treacherous politicians would simply ignore the result. treason May prefers to deal with the terrorists friend agent COB to thwart democracy than her own cabinet. remoaners, enjoy your vassalage, you've earn't it.

[youngmafbog]

"Nice try with the Project Fear, lol."

It's not Project Fear though is it, it is the EU's aim and to be honest it is the only way the EU will work.

As NJ says if Remainers think the EU, and our current situation in it will be that way forever then they are sadly deluded.

For better or for worse the EU WILL change, it has to.

[jim360]

It could be argued that it's a self-defeating argument anyway, on trade at least: leaving the EU can be justified by arguing that we need the freedom to sign and arrange our own trade deals, but where is the urgency for that if there are currently no meaningful barriers to trade anyway?

The answer to that is pretty obvious, which is that NJ's claims about the current trading system are, at best, highly misleading.

As regards the Irish border, we've gone over this multiple times, so I can't be bothered to revisit the arguments in too much detail. Still, it's pretty obvious that nobody wants to be seen as *choosing* to impose a Hard Border, which is why all sides are currently arguing that they don't intend to. But at some point the best intentions will run up against legal and political reality. Neither side can preserve its customs integrity unless trade across the border is properly monitored.

[jim360]

Oh, I agree that the EU both will change and has to, but equally there is no means for the EU to force the UK to abandon or remove its opt-outs, either now or in the future. The only ways to lose said opt-outs are either: if the UK leaves the EU and subsequently decides to rejoin; or if the UK remains in the EU voluntarily gives up those opt-outs as part of some as-yet unclear future negotiations. But we can't be forced to, no more than any other member state can.

[Playbill]

. . . and here is a comment I posted on 9th July 2016 at 23.10.

//The result of the vote will stand, but I do not think the implementation will be occurring within anything like the time-scale many imagine. Also, the terms may also not be what has been promised or expected.//

[jim360]

It's easy to be right when you say nothing at all.