Brave Men ??

[fbg40]

Saw on BBC news tonight, 4 men attacked 2 gay women and apparently have been arrested. Nothing much to say except aren't they brave ? The words I would like to use are not printable !!
Rant over.
FBG40

[dannyk13]

Retro, God help us if ever they are called upon to defend us.

[Calicogirl]

It was trialled briefly and dropped Retro- read your own link. It's no good moaning because we are not living in the 'good old days', things have changed a few for the worse but the vast majority for the better, and it doesn't alter the fact that we don't want our armed forces stocked with violent criminals however happy you would be to beat them into alleged submission.

[dannyk13]

Calico, that is not how things worked.

[Calicogirl]

Yes Danny 'worked'- past tense- they simply would not work now though x

[dannyk13]

Calico, I agree, there is too much Pc, and namby- pambying.

[Calicogirl]

I would like to see more done to ensure these nasty little yobs don't develop as such in the first place, we are too centred on exam results in schools and not enough on creating thoughtful decent people with good values.x

[Rockrose]

If being pc means you can no longer under the guise of making soldiers beat the living daylights out of someone then thank goodness for being pc

[dannyk13]

Calico, that would require a certain amount of discipline on the part of the teaching staff but their hands are tied by the idiocy of PC.

[dannyk13]

Rockrose, nobody 'beat the living daylights ' out of anyone.|You are surmising a lot from the miniscule knowledge of what went on inside barracks.

[Rockrose]

Really Danny another dismissal of my experiences!!
My brother came home on leave beaten black and blue!
But never mind that’s just my minuscule experience!

[gness]

Doesn't take much googling to see that Rockrose is correct.

[Rockrose]

Goodness Gness get ready for the dismissal of your opinion

[Calicogirl]

//Calico, that would require a certain amount of discipline on the part of the teaching staff but their hands are tied by the idiocy of PC.//

Erm, no it wouldn't. My point is that kids are hot housed into being 'successful' academically, they are over stressed to get good exam results,and forced to do ridiculous amounts of homework. Absurd regulations about uniform and hairstyle are imposed, underlining the fact that it's not okay to be different, so we have a lot of angry, frustrated kids who are indoctrinated to think everyone has to be the same as they are- this carries over to society as a whole, thus, especially if they are made to feel like failures by being academically unsuccessful, they find it personally acceptable to vent those frustrations on anyone they perceive to be not like them, so their targets are people of differing ethnicities, sexuality, gender identities, age groups etc. They will also seek to find groups where they feel they belong and are accepted so gang membership becomes an issue.
what we need is for kids to be encouraged to be different, stressed less, allowed to play and be children, taught that even if they aren't a great mathematician they might be the kindest person in the class and that is equally valuable. Teachers can't do this because they are hogtied by OFTED/ NC rollux.
I bet there are not many kids from Montessori schools / Ed Otherwise join gangs or commit violent crimes, it'd be interesting to see.

[pixie374]

And not just that, cal. In Britain, we seem to treat children as an entirely separate species. They should be kept away from annoying proper adult humans at all costs. We can't socialise them easily here... and wonder why some teenagers end up antisocial... not rocket science, really.