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Jo Brand - Comedy Or Incitement?
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naomi - // Pixie, I'm not sure why you're talking about 'adults'. Jo Brands 'humour' isn't restricted to the over 18s. //
Neither in 'incitement' - and the point that I believe Pixie is making, and I am absolutely making, is that to conjure incitement out of humour as an abstract debating point, as you are, takes a leap of imagination that I regard as invalid.
Of course, if someone wishes to act on Ms. Brand's proposition, and then refer to her as having 'incited' them to do it - what odds would you give that for a legal defence in court?
Neither in 'incitement' - and the point that I believe Pixie is making, and I am absolutely making, is that to conjure incitement out of humour as an abstract debating point, as you are, takes a leap of imagination that I regard as invalid.
Of course, if someone wishes to act on Ms. Brand's proposition, and then refer to her as having 'incited' them to do it - what odds would you give that for a legal defence in court?
I like my comedy to be completely edgy, to push boundaries, and to induce a sharp intake of breath from the more delicate among us, and I know people will judge me for this, but I found the Frankie Boyle joke about Jordan funny (although his joke about Princess Diana and minefields was funnier). I found the utterly hilarious Ross/Brand/Sachs thing sidesplittingly funny, but it's horses for courses because some people went completely bananas about this (can you believe that was over 10 years ago???).
I have never been offended by a comedian.
As a rule I don't find Brand funny, as so much of her routines in the past have centered around how fat she is and it all got a bit samey, but this did raise a small smile.
She's a comedian and she used the tools of hyperbole and shock, as many comedians do, so I'm struggling to understand all the fuss, so for me it was comedy and not incitement. To suggest the latter is to suggest Brand actually wants people to do this - and there's no way she does.
(Cue the "you wouldn't find it funny if your child/wife/whatever was a victim of an acid attack" comments).
Comedy is entirely subjective. On the rare occasions I've caught Dad's Army, it has always struck me as puerile and not even remotely funny, and yet I am aware, and respect, that many people find it brilliant.
I have never been offended by a comedian.
As a rule I don't find Brand funny, as so much of her routines in the past have centered around how fat she is and it all got a bit samey, but this did raise a small smile.
She's a comedian and she used the tools of hyperbole and shock, as many comedians do, so I'm struggling to understand all the fuss, so for me it was comedy and not incitement. To suggest the latter is to suggest Brand actually wants people to do this - and there's no way she does.
(Cue the "you wouldn't find it funny if your child/wife/whatever was a victim of an acid attack" comments).
Comedy is entirely subjective. On the rare occasions I've caught Dad's Army, it has always struck me as puerile and not even remotely funny, and yet I am aware, and respect, that many people find it brilliant.
Deskdiary - I think you raise a valid point about comedy, and the fact that it is entirely subjective, as I have already pointed out.
The simple fact is, any comedian who is not attracting an audience, and that means people find him or her funny, is not going to be around for very long.
The fact that Ms Brand, and indeed Mr Boyle, are highly successful comedians proves that they have an audience.
They may not be mutually compatible audiences, but that is the joy of humour, it's a broad church.
The simple fact is, any comedian who is not attracting an audience, and that means people find him or her funny, is not going to be around for very long.
The fact that Ms Brand, and indeed Mr Boyle, are highly successful comedians proves that they have an audience.
They may not be mutually compatible audiences, but that is the joy of humour, it's a broad church.
I'm fairly ambivalent about Jo Brand. Some of her output I have found quite funny and the dry way she delivers. She mocks herself quite a bit concerning her physique and reluctance to exercise.
There are many comedians I don't find funny but others think they are hilarious. This applies to comedy TV too.
Many AB'ers know I have a humerous side but I didn't think Jo's comments were very funny but proving incitement would be a very difficult matter altogether.
There are many comedians I don't find funny but others think they are hilarious. This applies to comedy TV too.
Many AB'ers know I have a humerous side but I didn't think Jo's comments were very funny but proving incitement would be a very difficult matter altogether.
Naomi, because i had said that adults are responsible for their own behaviour... you can't necessarily claim that children are. I'm sure you have followed the thread, and know that I am saying that adults cannot be incited without their permission.
If you want to change to children... just let me know x
If you want to change to children... just let me know x
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