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vetuste - // The legend of Theseus is interesting. The annual tribute paid by the Athenians to their Minoan overlords to gorge the giant maw of the Minotaur was only twelve virgins, six of each sex. Rotherham (to name just one tributary "city") fed fifteen hundred girls to the far greater maw of multiculturalism. And the "overlords" to whom this tribute was willingly paid was a total population of 9,000 Muslims. //
For your analogy to work you would have to accept that the entire Muslim population was complicit in the abuse of these girls, and not a seriously small minority of perverts who would be perverts whether or not they paid casual lip-service to the faith they may or may not claim to represent.
That would be, at best unhelpful, and at worse, completely unacceptable.
For your analogy to work you would have to accept that the entire Muslim population was complicit in the abuse of these girls, and not a seriously small minority of perverts who would be perverts whether or not they paid casual lip-service to the faith they may or may not claim to represent.
That would be, at best unhelpful, and at worse, completely unacceptable.
//Please stop counting muslim women and children, the women suffer enough as it is - and they often don't even get to vote//
I don't, Maisie. The "community", as you know" is a male patriarchy. It has clear rules about how "its" women have to act and how to dress. It (the "community") also has fewer confusions that the modern western male rules about gender roles. And has specific religious precedents for the treatment of non-Muslim women.
Modern Muslim society in Europe is, also, unashamedly "masculine".
I don't, Maisie. The "community", as you know" is a male patriarchy. It has clear rules about how "its" women have to act and how to dress. It (the "community") also has fewer confusions that the modern western male rules about gender roles. And has specific religious precedents for the treatment of non-Muslim women.
Modern Muslim society in Europe is, also, unashamedly "masculine".
I meant Muslim men. They're not useless wimps who won't fight their corner. But they do believe in a holy book which has a chapter called "Booty". In this chapter Allah which accords the right to all Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women captured in war.
So, as concerns "masculinity" (which on the whole I think is a good thing: look after your wife and kids), this particular variet is somewhat toxic, wouldn't you agree?
So, as concerns "masculinity" (which on the whole I think is a good thing: look after your wife and kids), this particular variet is somewhat toxic, wouldn't you agree?
Professor - // andy-hughes you obviously haven't studied the facts in even the most casual way. //
As I regularly point out to another AB'er who is prone to similarly sweeping and unfounded statements - what I have studied is for me to know, and apparently, you to guess at - incorrectly.
// You must think the perverts in your 'seriously small minority' have super-powers. //
I think no such thing - and I am unsure why you would make sucn a nonsensical statement - it makes no sense and adds nothing to the debate, but if it makes you feel correct in your assessment, you crack on with it.
As I regularly point out to another AB'er who is prone to similarly sweeping and unfounded statements - what I have studied is for me to know, and apparently, you to guess at - incorrectly.
// You must think the perverts in your 'seriously small minority' have super-powers. //
I think no such thing - and I am unsure why you would make sucn a nonsensical statement - it makes no sense and adds nothing to the debate, but if it makes you feel correct in your assessment, you crack on with it.
vetuste - // I meant Muslim men. They're not useless wimps who won't fight their corner. But they do believe in a holy book which has a chapter called "Booty". In this chapter Allah which accords the right to all Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women captured in war. //
This sort of argument crops up regularly when a thread loses its way and meanders down the 'all Muslim men are rapists and / or terrorists' route.
I am intrigued to know why you appear to believe that Muslim men must follow their holy writings to the letter, and go around raping white women, when you clearly don;t expect or believe Christian men to do the same thing - plucking out offending eyes and cuttong off offending hands and all that guff.
The simple fact is, the majority of any religion's followers adapt their teachings to suit their lives, and make them happy and secure.
For Muslims, that's keen on the praying and fasting bits, and swerving the child marriage and raping parts.
For Christians, it's trying to lead a good life, hittinc church most Sundays, and looking the other way with the forceful removal of various body parts.
It is ignorant to subscribe the perversion of a minority who use their twisted interpretations of scriptures to excuse rape and murder, to the entire body of believers.
These men, and it is usually men, would be doing these things if they could find sections in the Bible, or the Tora, or any text that gave them a free pass to behave like degenerate monsters, not because they actually believe that they are instructed to do so, but because it means they can look at themselves in the mirror and tell their reflection they are doing Allah's work, and ignore the truth, which is that they are psychopathic immoral excuses for humanity.
These men act they way they do because they are unbalanced mentally damaged horrible degenerates, not because they are Muslims.
Remember Peter Sutcliffe saying God told him to kill prostitutes?
We didn't believe him - why should we believe the rapists and terrorists?
Well, actually I don't.
This sort of argument crops up regularly when a thread loses its way and meanders down the 'all Muslim men are rapists and / or terrorists' route.
I am intrigued to know why you appear to believe that Muslim men must follow their holy writings to the letter, and go around raping white women, when you clearly don;t expect or believe Christian men to do the same thing - plucking out offending eyes and cuttong off offending hands and all that guff.
The simple fact is, the majority of any religion's followers adapt their teachings to suit their lives, and make them happy and secure.
For Muslims, that's keen on the praying and fasting bits, and swerving the child marriage and raping parts.
For Christians, it's trying to lead a good life, hittinc church most Sundays, and looking the other way with the forceful removal of various body parts.
It is ignorant to subscribe the perversion of a minority who use their twisted interpretations of scriptures to excuse rape and murder, to the entire body of believers.
These men, and it is usually men, would be doing these things if they could find sections in the Bible, or the Tora, or any text that gave them a free pass to behave like degenerate monsters, not because they actually believe that they are instructed to do so, but because it means they can look at themselves in the mirror and tell their reflection they are doing Allah's work, and ignore the truth, which is that they are psychopathic immoral excuses for humanity.
These men act they way they do because they are unbalanced mentally damaged horrible degenerates, not because they are Muslims.
Remember Peter Sutcliffe saying God told him to kill prostitutes?
We didn't believe him - why should we believe the rapists and terrorists?
Well, actually I don't.
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