Not Long Now

[Jordyboy9]

Does anyone hope as I do that it will not be BORIS ?not to long to go before we find out ,TRUMP in the White House,and BORIS in number 10,anyone believe in Devine intervention?

[ichkeria]

I can only repeat what I said before: we want an open border (not just Ireland)
We want N Ireland to be in a customs union with the rest of the UK.
This is a circle that cannot easily - if at all for now - be squared.
Hence the backstop which may come into effect after the transition period.
There are no “plots” by the EU, the UK or anyone else

[Jordyboy9]

Headache TIME
Boris Johnson now prime minister
Leaves EU with No Deal
Irish border chaos
Scotland vote to leave Britain
Scotland join EU
Scottish border more chaos
There will always be an England

[ToraToraTora]

mally: "Any prime minister who calls his colleagues dudes and is over 21 and not wearing a back to front baseball cap whilst juggling with a skateboard really is a bit of a buffoon" - oh dear mally me old china, DUDE is an acronym: Deliver Unite Defeat Energise.

[ToraToraTora]

jordy:
"Headache TIME" - Perhaps for the VBQ
"Boris Johnson now prime minister" - you can't pull the wool over your eyes!
"Leaves EUSSR with No Deal" - it is innevitable given their intransigence
"Irish border chaos" - there will be no change, there is not chaos now
"Scotland vote to leave Britain" - if they do they also leave the EUSSR
"Scotland join EUSSR" - they'll be vetoed by at least Spain and France and will quickly beg to rejoin the UK
"Scottish border more chaos" - not really
"There will always be an England" - correct

[Zacs-Master]

"Irish border chaos" - there will be no change, there is not chaos now

No, that's because were both still in the EU.

[maggiebee]

Boris Johnson? Would rather have Boris Karloff.

[cassa333]

It’s always the wrong decision or wrong result when you haven’t won or got your way. That’s life in a nut shell.

That is especially true when you don’t look at subjects with a critical eye or only from one perspective. Especially if you make all your decisions about the world from the left leaning liberal MSM. The kaleidoscope of life is not left or right or even the middle it is splattered all over the spectrum. So to look only from one angle is to be forever ill informed.

[Old_Geezer]

Two unilateral decisions not to mess about but keep a border open is not necessarily a deal. Just an attack of common sense.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah but one side want's checks to be in place (The EU) and we're not bothered. So how do you resolve that?

[david small]

Just love the accentuate the negative on this post.
Misery loves company.

[ichkeria]

We want to not be in Customs Union with EU.
We want to keep customs union with N Ireland.
We want no customs posts between N Ireland and Republic
That is unresolvable as it stands unless one of the above changes.

[Old_Geezer]

As mentioned, the other side can do as many random checks at the destination as they want. Their choice. Most likely few will be needed. If it's up to UK standard why would it not be up to EU standard ? But if the EU want a border post, despite denying it, they are at liberty to have one. Their option.

[Old_Geezer]

Amazing how those who don't want to leave insist everything can't be done. Listen to BJ, a "can do" attitude is needed.

[ichkeria]

This arrangement was set up by those who DO want to leave. And who live on the real world

[ichkeria]

Up to UK standard is it the same as up to EU standard.
Just to take one example at random, suppose the UK does a trade deal with the US which involves us accepting food manufacturing standards that don’t come up to EU standards. ...

[ToraToraTora]

ich:"suppose the UK does a trade deal with the US which involves us accepting food manufacturing standards that don’t come up to EUSSR standards. ... " - nowt to do with the EUSSR, other nations have different regs on all sorts of things. That's the point we do the deal not the EUSSR, we don't care what their regs are.

[ichkeria]

Old geezer asked why EU standards would be any different to UK
standards

[ToraToraTora]

oh I see, apologies.

[Jordyboy9]

Hasn’t it been the case that we in Britain adhered to eu rules while other eu countries flouted them?
A case in point while in balboa Spain last month we saw trays and trays of offal which would not have been allowed here.

[ichkeria]

Well probably, but we’re talking trading standards