Whipped For Loving..

[fender62]

religion of peace..mmm the face of islam you do not see on bbc, i wonder why..guess trump is more news worthy, considered a racist..but hey whats happening is ok though.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7306503/Woman-breaks-publicly-whipped-100-times-having-pre-marital-sex-Indonesia.html#comments

[THECORBYLOON]

PP, I was looking to see if the man delivering the lashings had a Quran under his oxter but if he had, it wasn't obvious.

[tonyav]

it prevents retribution from the victim's family and friends.


Mmmmm, personally I'd call it justice.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, I repeat, come back when you know what you’re talking about because as it is you’re talking nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with my conversation with jim and no bearing on my conversation with jim. //

Stop huffing, you're derailing the thread, and losing your dignity.

You've been busted, live with it and move on - I do.

[andy-hughes]

tonyav - // it prevents retribution from the victim's family and friends.


Mmmmm, personally I'd call it justice. //

I can see where you are coming from - but you won't be surprised to hear that the beater probably doesn't agree with us on this.

[fiction-factory]

>AH, I repeat, come back when you know what you’re talking about because as it is you’re talking nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with my conversation with jim and no bearing on my conversation with jim

Maybe you are getting confused, naomi, as there seem to be separate issues. AH is talking sense- so it's not nonsense. However I agree that "this thread has nothing to do with [your} conversation with jim and no bearing on [your] conversation with jim.

[fiction-factory]

>Stop huffing, you're derailing the thread, and losing your dignity.

Maybe Naomi isn't the only one though, andy- and I'm probably including myself now (of derailing, not losing my dignity).

It does seem to have gone off track rather. Maybe we should all just leave the discussion to cover the topic raised by the OP not tangential issues

[andy-hughes]

fiction-factory - Thanks for your support, but in the interests of keeping the thread on track, I am stopping my references to Naomi's lapse of memory / hypocrisy - delete as you feel - from here, and I hope everyone else will do the same.

[andy-hughes]

FF - we cross-posted, but I see we are in agreement.

So - about beating Muslims then ...

[ummmm]

It happens all the time in threads Andy and Noami are involved in.

[douglas9401]

Just keeping the peace. Nothing to see here.

More quinoa anyone?

[Togo]

//It happens all the time in threads Andy and Noami are involved in.//

It happens all the time on threads that ah and anybody is involved in.

Now where is my sjambok and mask.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ignorance and mockery from the usual quarters I see. (And since I started writing this post a believer in moral relativism: all cuktures and practices are qual.)

Another normal crazy day on AB then.

Aceh province is a part of "moderate" Indonesia which has adopted Sharia and its penal code the hadood. Whippings, stonings and amputations are not extreme, they are God's Law as prescribed in the Koran and the hadith, and endorsed by the Prophet both in his words and by his actions. These practices are common in many Muslim majority countries, and will become even more common after the false dan of the "Arab Spring" (if that isn't a confused metaphor).

Optimists who think this stuff is "extreme" and will go away , and talk (hope?) for an Islamic "Reformation" please note that such a reformation has beenf occurring. There was the Deobandi movement in India in the 19th century, the Salafist movement in Egypt at the same time and Wahhabism which gave us the House of Saud. Then there is the increased Islamisation of former colonies once released from their masters in the twentieth century. This "Reformation" is a return to Islam's pure roots, and an implicit rejection of Western civilisation at the heart of which is the blasphemous concept of democracy, that is to say "man-made" law.

Other "moderate" Muslim countries(or those with with large Muslim populations) where sharia now operates are Pakistan, and the federal states of Nigeria and Malaysia.

Personsally I like the altruism to give a damn about any of this if the barbarism was confined to those place, but given that most European mosques are funded by - and frequently have imams from - sharia states like Saudi Arabia, and given its high Muslim birth rate, Europe will come under increasing pressure to adopt sharia whether by direct, or by theindirect means (looking the other way ) which even now tolerates polygamy, FGM, forced marriage and worse.

[naomi24]

AH, well you’ve got gulliver wetting himself again so I guess someone’s impressed with your rubbish.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Did I refer to a "false Dan:? Let's try dawn.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Also I don't like altruism - I lack it.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // AH, well you’ve got gulliver wetting himself again so I guess someone’s impressed with your rubbish. //

Hush now - we're back on the thread, so why not calm down and contribute, or not.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - // Optimists who think this stuff is "extreme" and will go away , and talk (hope?) for an Islamic "Reformation" please note that such a reformation has beenf occurring. //

I don't see any posts from any 'optimists' - and for the record, taking an exasperated position and being vexed because you don't think anyone understands the issues as much as you do, comes over as being superior and pompous, and it doesn't encourage rational discussion.

We don't need a superior 'Islam expert' here on the AB - that position has been filled.

[Togo]

I think you may have, at the very least, misunderstood my "Now where is my sjambok and mask" throwaway remark Fender. Because when such "judgements" become commonplace here, as trends suggest, then there will be a shortage of administrators with the tools to carry out the sentence. Why, I could name my price.

[naomi24]

VE 22.03, excellent post.

[ichkeria]

It’s hard to know what the point of this thread was to start with if not to start a row.
In which case it’s progressing admirably :-)