Is It Time For All Police Officers To At Least Have A Tazer

[youngmafbog]

After the attempted murder of a Police Officer by Muhammed Rodwan the other day there are renewed calls for all Police to have a taser.

Is it time, should we try this before arming them?

Unfortunately, since the Government and the judiciary are not willing to tackle knife crime correctly do we have any choice? Police Officers cannot be allowed to be in such danger, especially in the urban environment.

[THECORBYLOON]

RETRO, if it's the Princess Anne incident you're meaning, the then sergeant said he fired and missed and then the gun jammed. Would examination of the gun not have shown it had been fired or no?

[Spicerack]

DD. Lefty punched the air when that happened. They'll 'weaponise' it until the end of time.

[retrocop]

TCL
I make no comment on where or what incident. You are obviously missing a major point.

[THECORBYLOON]

In that incident, he was a sergeant, promoted to inspector and received a CVO.

I am not doubting what you were telt but it does not match what he said happened. If I have missed something but you are not willing to say more, I will leave it at that.

[retrocop]

Thank you.

[THECORBYLOON]

There is a huge difference between enlisting in HMF in the knowledge that you will be trained to kill someone and joining the police.

To think that someone who has been in the police for years should be forced to carry a gun is madness.

[anneasquith]

Do * rubber bullets * kill people ?

[retrocop]

Yes they have done in Northern Ireland.

[dannyk13]

Anne, Yes
https://www.seeker.com/can-rubber-bullets-kill-you-1765368678.html

[THECORBYLOON]

I have seen the type of rubber bullets formerly used in Ulster and although fired at a lower speed than normal bullets, they were large enough and heavy enough to kill.

[retrocop]

The baton rounds I once collected from a RAE in South Wales looked like the first two in on the left of the two pictures in the link.
37mm calibre and the projectile looked like a shaving soap stick about the size of a cardboard toilet roll insert and made of a very hard composite plastic. I have the carteridge for one but lost the projectile (inert of course).
http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/14330-37mm-baton-guns-ammunition-etc-see-photos/

[retrocop]

typo cartridge

[THECORBYLOON]

Rubber bullet used in Ulster https://images.app.goo.gl/NJwTfcYUdin5uaeS7

[dannyk13]

molfetta

[Spicerack]

wolf63 //Issue every Police Officer with a partner - either a Human or a German Shepherd.

We expect officers to go out and keep our streets safe for us on their own. I think that would help.//

He wasn't on his own, wolf. He was with a WPC. (according to the report I saw)

[retrocop]

TCL
This is the round I am familiar with and tried to describe.Teacake suggested earlier that they may be considered for personal protection by police officers on street duty but totally unsuitable for quick deployment due to their size as demonstrated by pictures of the weapons in my previous link.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITISH-ARMY-POLICE-NORTHERN-IRELAND-L60A2-37-MM-AEP-RUBBER-BULLET-BATON-ROUND-/162864380551

[wolf63]

Spicerack - I was generalising about Police as I was in a terrible rush to get out of the house.

The thing about Police dogs (I love dogs) is their speed and the fact that they don't stop to think.

I think that the Police officers in this country and far better suited to dealing with the public (us) than the trigger-happy cops in other parts of the world.

I don't think that it is right for us (the public) to dictate that Police Officers should be armed. Dealing with the public is hard enough without having to worry about carrying a gun.

I am surprised that the forces don't suitably kit out their officers.

[Khandro]

The assailant has been named;
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/09/uk-video-machete-attack-on-cop-emerges-suspect-named-muhammed-rodwan/

[Neveracrossword]

Khandro, see the OP at 07.53.

[New Judge]

//The lead must come from the police and not from politicians. If the police feel they need greater protection they should say so and then it should be down to MPs to consider the benefits, cost and any downsides.//

A fine sentiment. Unfortunately the senior police officers who might make such representations are, in the main, politically correct placemen/women who are more concerned with making the police force (sorry “service”) a branch of the social services and guardians of “equality” and citizens’ rights. That eases their steps up the greasy pole far more readily than sending their officers out of the streets properly equipped to deal with violent hugs would.