Boris To Get Tough On Crime.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7345377/Boris-Johnson-stop-prisoners-automatically-released-half-sentence.html

/// Left wingers will howl. But its time to make criminals afraid - not the public. ///

[Spicerack]

Turns out you were right again, AOG.
I'd never listen to the so called news on the aBBC.
Unfortunately, because I just listened to Sounds of the 70's on R2 I couldn't avoid it.
The main tragedy today, the Government are re-introducing 'stop & search'. You could be forgiven for thinking, with all the wailing, that they had introduced death squads.
Every bulletin, up popped another left-whinger to inform us it'll never work, it's racist and, of course, the only thing that could end knife crime was an end to (tory) austerity.

[Baldric]

\\ ael, in the link he is promising to stop early release of prisoners \\

/// The Prime Minister also wants to stop automatic release of any serious criminals ///

[david small]

I’m liking Boris’s intentions.

[New Judge]

The problem with recidivism in the UK is that by the time petty criminals finally receive their first custodial sentence they are already habitual criminals. I’m not talking about those who commit serious crimes who inevitably receive a custodial sentence. I’m talking about petty criminals, those who commit low level violence, petty theft, that sort of thing. The average number of convictions such a person attracts before being sent to prison is about fifteen. In short, they expect to be able to continue their activities without being sent to prison so reoffending is almost guaranteed.

Comparisons with other countries is interesting. If you are involved in a minor crime of violence, particularly against a vulnerable victim in France or Spain you will almost certainly go to prison. If you do likewise in the UK you almost certainly won’t. The UK sends a high number of people to prison because it encourages them to hone their trade and develop a criminal career. For those who think custody is no deterrent, take a trip to your local Magistrates’ Court and sit in the public gallery. When you see somebody facing sentencing where the court has a choice of an immediate custodial sentence, or a lesser disposal (such as a community order or a suspended prison sentence) you will find that the only thing they are interested in is avoiding custody. They could be sentenced to the most onerous Community Order but if they avoid going inside it is “a result”.

The UK sends a lot of people to prison because it has a lot of habitual criminals and it has a lot of habitual criminals because it does not deal with them robustly enough before they set out on their career.

[Baldric]

// Boris To Get Tough On Crime //

Well he would say that, wouldn't he?

[Mamyalynne]

Be strange to set his stall out any other way.

It's a wait and see isn't it.

[douglas9401]

At least let him park the bus before he has to renege on his latest outpurings.

[douglas9401]

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[Peter Pedant]

more prisons - more prisoners
less immigration ( lets ban all armenians for a start but not the ones already here ! oh no)
spending on NHS

does anyone see an election coming over the horizon ?

[douglas9401]

Albanians? Otherwise carry on.

[retrocop]

//The main tragedy today, the Government are re-introducing 'stop & search'. You could be forgiven for thinking, with all the wailing, that they had introduced death squads. //

Of course who said, today ,it's a recipe for disaster ? Dianne Abbot !
That is the same Dianne Abbot along with one Bernie Grant and the rest of the mommas and pappas ( if they could be found) who complained that the pigs was picking on their boys cos they wos black. The word stereotyping wasn't used then. Grant and Abbot gloated when PC Blakelock was macheted to death and claimed'the police got a bloody good hiding'. These were Labour politicians and one is still but of course you would never imagine that Abbot would send her son to a private school because she didn't want her boy to mix with other drug dealing black boys at the local school in her constituency.
The police kept drugs crime down by vigorous stop and search on the very people they knew were carrying and dealing with drugs who were black. There were few inter rivalry gangs and little knife crime compared with the current daily butchers bill.
The government of the day heeded the complaints from the black community and virtually stopped stop and search overnight and capitulated to scum like Bernie Grant.
As the old sayings go, 'Be careful what you wish for' and 'you reap what you sow'
The very people who complained about Police controlling drugs by targeting the correct usual suspects are know howling from the roof tops that their children are being slaughtered wholesale and demanding more polic action including stop and search.
The media report county lines and shootings/stabbings almost everyday in the UK and some bright academic throws out contrary statistics trying to claim violent crime is down over the years FGS.
I suppose these reports are Fake News and senationalised just to sell papers to the gullible are they ?. Scientific number crunching is the truth!! Ha.

[Ken4155]

When a judge hands down a sentence for, say, 12 months, he/she knows full well that only half of it will be served. If BoJo does as he says he will, ill they not, then, halve their sentences, thereby giving the crims the same length of time inside? Just a thought.

[naomi24]

He gets confused, douglas.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Unaware until reading this thread that we the UK had a large criminally inclined Armenian population.

Armenia is outside[i the EU and so Armenians have no automatic right to entry

Also most Armenians are Christians, so why would the Home Office be pre-disposed to inviting [i]them] in?

[vetuste_ennemi]

allow rather than "invite", perhaps.

[Deskdiary]

From the reaction from some parts of the media and the 'right-on' Left like Grace Blakeley, you'd think martial law had been announced.

The normal man-in-the-street will welcome this news. We like to hear that the punishment will fit the crime, particularly for crimes such as knife crime.

Despite being part of the right-on left I quite like Grace Blakeley, but she was infuriating on TV this morning - twice she was asked whether she'd support tougher sentencing and twice she came out with the problem is poverty (because, apparently, poverty is the root of all knife crime) and rather bizarrely, that white collar criminals are not routinely jailed.

Call me strange, but I'd rather walk past a white collar criminal rather than somebody who might stab me in the face.

[Jackdaw33]

As a life-long supporter I have become increasingly despairing of Tory governments since the departure of Thatcher, and even before. Stick, to it, Boris, a grateful nation will amply reward you.

[ludwig]

It seems like common sense. Everyone knows there's a problem with violent crime, and it's fairly obvious what needs to be done to tackle it. It will cost money, but it's money well spent.

[anotheoldgit]

Well Diane Abbott has warned , the government that the rollout of blanket stop-and-search powers, will trigger riots.

Isn't she inciting violence?

Now we should be very frightened, but still it will give the rioters a chance to stock up on their TVs, Mobile phones etc.

She has also said it could provoke unrest.

Isn't that what we have now already got?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-stop-and-search-expansion-crime-diane-abbott-response-latest-police-a9051876.html

[Ken4155]

Do you ever read past the headlines in your links, AOG. Dianne Abbot says, "History has taught the Tories nothing. Extending Section 60 powers over the summer is a tried and tested recipe for unrest, not violence reduction." How on planet Earth is that inciting violence?