Make Me P M Or I'll Sqweam And Sqweam And Sqweam.......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/17/corbyn-labour-no-deal-brexit-mps-flirting-with-disaster
After even Collaborator Oliver Letwin declared he'd rather no deal than let Agent Cob into No 10, is Jezza getting desparate?

[davebro]

The sad thing is that the UK/EU issue (I don't say Brexit cos that's a perjorative term) has deeply divided the ordinary people of this country and whatever happens that rift will not be healed for years, maybe generations, to come. It would have been better if we'd never got involved with the Common Market in the first place. De Gaulle was right!

[dannyk13]

Jim //I'll start taking it seriously. At the moment, I don't see it.//
As I said previously:- none so blind as those who cannot see.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//At the moment, I don't see it. I would dearly love to be persuaded otherwise, rather than just insulted or dismissed.//

I've given you the evidence, Jim: all your experts have been shown to be false prophets.

PS: why has Mervyn King never once been quoted on the Remainstream media?

[youngmafbog]

oh dear. I'll second Danny;s yawn.

[Togo]

When it comes to the doom mongering Remainiacs no research is necessary to support their hysterical claims. Claims born of an overwhelming need to be told what to do...….preferably by the unelected EUSSR mandarins. All their "reports" are based on anonymous contacts, such as People R Saying, the Institute of Nameless Experts and the Palace of Hearsay.

[Zacs-Master]

I take it you don’t see the FT as an ‘anonymous contact’?
https://www.ft.com/content/eaae31b2-c004-11e9-9381-78bab8a70848

https://www.ft.com/content/33d6e16a-bf81-11e9-b350-db00d509634e

[Togo]

//I take it you don’t see the FT as an ‘anonymous contact’?//

I don't see the FT as an unbiased source either. Stuffed to the gunwales with failed city workers and globalist bean counters who fear having their cosy placement endangered.

[Gromit]

Hope I am wrong, but if the worse case scenario plays out - I predict a riot or two.
The political process has failed, and people will express their frustrations by torching a a few banks and shops.

[mushroom25]

//I take it you don’t see the FT as an ‘anonymous contact’? //

not sure how you can see it as anything else, when it hides itself behind a paywall.

[Khandro]

^^ And, it's not exactly impartial!

[ichkeria]

I can’t see anyone rioting over Brexit.
I’m not sure what the worst case scenario might be but if it’s a no deal Brexit then the people rioting would presumably be cross with themselves. What are they going to do: set fire to themselves, beat themselves up?

[Zacs-Master]

You must be a reyt strong lad, Togo, with all that goalpost moving.

[Zacs-Master]

‘And, it's not exactly impartial!’

Says our favourite Brietbart believer!!

[Togo]

Remember this....The FT is owned lock stock and barrel by......the Japanese. The same Japanese who would rather we were for ever shackled by EUSSR regulations and restrictions. The last thing the Japanese want is a revitalised Britain once again challenging for the share of World markets that it has greedily scooped up whist we have been in a EUSSR induced coma. No need top move the goalposts when your opponents are kicking the wrong way is there.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah yeah yeah. Whatever. Maybe don’t use words like ‘anonymous’ when there are plenty of sources to find, eh?

Of yourse you’d say they were bias. It’s a standard (if slightly schoolboy) debating practise. Any source can be said to be bias.

[Khandro]

//Says our favourite Brietbart believer!!//
So now we know: the FT is the fount of your information! This explains much, pardon me, but I think I'll stick to other sources, including Breitbart.

[Zacs-Master]

You do that, Khandro. Gives us all a laugh.

[ToraToraTora]

jim: "It was never eternal vassalage. So that's lie number one. Lie number two is to portray the Backstop as inevitable rather than a failsafe. " - if the "deal" was accepted, the first time after that we hit the backstop, only the EUSSR can dissolve that position, which they'd only do once we agree to whatever they say. That's eternal vassalage.

[Khandro]

//You do that, Khandro. Gives us all a laugh.// Ha ha

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/nov/21/ft-calls-andrew-adonis-brexit-bias-accusations-nonsense-financial-times

[New Judge]

//Also I'm not speaking about George Osborne's scare tactics -- which, it should be noted, were based on he and David Cameron (illegally!) staying in office triggering Article 50 notification immediately, and which were anyway rejected even by many remain-supporting economists.//

Er..er....

Mr Osborne made no mention of triggering A50 either immediately or after some delay. His quote was this:

"A Leave vote would cause an "immediate and profound" economic shock, with growth between 3% and 6% lower."

Nothing about triggering A50 (which he would have known would not have been done on June 24th). His warning was of the perils of a "vote to leave". We've discussed this before, but I don't know what voters were supposed to assume when he spoke of "an immediate and profound shock". Immediate to me is, er.. sort of straightaway. There were no caveats to soothe the electorate's worries; nothing that said "it won't happen until we've triggered A50"; nothing that said it wouldn't happen until we've actually left. It was said to be immediate. And we're still waiting, three years on.