The Tory Rebels Beat Boris.

[Gromit]

Unprecedented

27 Majority. Makes for an interesting week.

[naomi24]

You don't, Jim? Not even when I'd like an answer to the question too?

[Jackdaw33]

Jim must be laughing his little socks off at today's turn of events. He may be laughing now but he won't be laughing later. The worm will turn and he and his ilk will be swept aside mercilessly.

[THECORBYLOON]

The election will now be held on 15th because of a Jewish festival.

Leadsom didn't know Tories were losing the whip immediately the election date has been changed all going a

[THECORBYLOON]

...wee bit awry.

[naomi24]

Actually I thought Corbyn looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights when the word 'election' reared its head.

[jim360]

// Jim must be laughing his little socks off at today's turn of events. //

Wrong again, JackDaw. I'm relieved, but I'm well aware how temporary that relief may be. A general election is now inevitable, not least because the Government has a majority of -30. I wouldn't care to guess how that election will go, but even more to the point it doesn't matter if my side wins there or not. The damage that Brexit, or the debate about Brexit, will roll on, and on.

[retrocop]

Hey ho. 21 more unemployable on the dole queue.

[THECORBYLOON]

I doubt they'll be signing on any time soon.

[jim360]

// ... like me TTT is not enthralled with every word you utter. //

// Not even when I'd like an answer to the question too? //

Well, which is it then?

I refer you to my previous posts on the subject. I'll see if I can find a particularly concise one for you to disagree with.

[jim360]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/find/answer/12089206

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/find/answer/12089226

I think you saw at least the second of these already, Naomi. Still, it's notable for including the prediction that Johnson would call an election immediately on being blocked from pursuing no deal. Not the most profound prediction, but there we are. It was followed by danny yawning. Maybe he's more awake now :)

[jim360]

Returning to the Andrea Leadsom debacle, the other thing she said was that this is all about Jeremy Corbyn wanting to stop Brexit. Maybe I should have guessed from that complete nonsense that the rest of what she said couldn't be trusted. Corbyn's been more or less in favour of Brexit since Day 1 -- it's been a huge battle within Labour to get him to support a Second Referendum. The only thing he's against is the Conservative Party, and the "Tory Brexit", as he calls it, that it's negotiated. Indeed, if Corbyn had been PM (from 2017) we'd most probably have left by now.

[Spicerack]

Part 1 of the Cummings plan- tick.

[jim360]

Let us now what parts 2 and 3 are beforehand so we can prepare...

I don't think Cummings planned this but he must surely have anticipated and prepared for it.

[10ClarionSt]

Cummings is opening the bowling for Aus today, isn't he?

[Gromit]

// I don't think Cummings planned this but he must surely have anticipated and prepared for it. //

I am not so sure.

While Johnson was contesting to be Party leader, another election was always very likely. There is an impasse in the Commons, and an election might break that (or it might not).
So a quick election was always part of the plan.
Proroguing was always going to upset a large majority of MPs, including manyConservative MPs.
A VONC triggering a General Election has also been a prospect for some time.
Cummings is a strategic planner. He has engineered a scenario whereby Johnson can say he is reluctantly calling a General Election. He has engineered a scenario where he has de-selected the dissenters in his own Party (What is the point of getting a 20 majority in a GE, if 21 of your own Party are going to rebel against you).

It is a high stakes game, but I am not sure it was unplanned. Quite the opposite, it looks to me like it was deliberately set up.

[dannyk13]

Jim //A general election is now inevitable//
Only if Boris loses today's vote.

[ichkeria]

Rees-Mogg if he was drunk was drunk on power and position.
Like the toff who feels he’s finally been promoted to a station worthy of him. And he’s jolly well going to put those ler class MPs who don’t know their subjunctives from their indicatives in their place.
I bet he goes and reads Hansard and pleasures himself over his witticisms.
Dominic Grieve tore him to shreds.

[diddlydo]

Rees Mogg - yet another deluded Eton-educated t***.

[naomi24]

Jim //it's notable for including the prediction that Johnson would call an election immediately on being blocked from pursuing no deal.//

That doesn’t make being prepared to leave with ‘no deal’ a ‘phoney tactic’. Such a ploy would have necessitated a guarantee of the vote going the other way.

[CrapAtCryptics]

The Tory rebels, most of whom would have been de-selected anyway for ignoring their constituents wishes, will fade to obscurity. Labour running scared of a GE as they have made so many mistakes the purler being keeping Corbyn as leader when he is clearly disliked even by many in his party. Libs Dems who would ignore the result of a 2nd referendum if it still wants us to leave. If MPs change side they should be excluded from Parliament till after a bye election. A speaker who clearly isnt impartial.