Why Would No Deal Be Such A Bad Thing?

[gordiescotland1]

I voted Leave and I am genuinely puzzled why No Deal would be such a bad thing. Can Britain not survive without the EU?

[Zacs-Master]

After all that’s happened, you still believe they have the good of the country at heart?

[ToraToraTora]

yes I do and what's more I think the VBQC probably think they are doing it for the good of the country too but I don't agree with their activities.

[New Judge]

//Even people that say they want 'no deal' then say it's because we can then go and make other deals with other countries etc.'//

Yes Archie. That's because the deals that people say they'd like to see post-Brexit are simply trade deals. The "deal" that the EU is trying to foist upon the UK is not. It is a political accord, very similar in nature to EU membership. Trade deals do not involve freedom of movement between the participant nations, they do not involve vast sums of money being transferred for the privilege of "free" trading, they do not involve the incorporation of social, environmental and labour laws enforced by one country on the other. The Withdrawal deal is simply a list of demands being made by the EU in return for not causing us too much trouble when we leave. A trade deal between us comes later (if at all) and many of the provisions of the withdrawal agreement and the accompanying "political declaration" lay the groundwork for that deal, which will involve the UK remaining tied to the EU for more than simple trade. Furthermore, much of the Withdrawal Agreement - including the infamous Irish "backstop" - cannot be ended until a trade agreement is completed.

[Zacs-Master]

‘they do not involve the incorporation of social, environmental and labour laws enforced by one country on the other’

These are some of the laws ‘we’ve’ happily written into UK in a blanket adoption of EU law.

[New Judge]

//These are some of the laws ‘we’ve’ happily written into UK in a blanket adoption of EU law.//

Already discussed, Zacs.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they were "happily" written into UK law. That exercise was done of necessity in order to promptly extricate ourselves from the ridiculous position that various governments had allowed the UK to descend into over the last 40-odd years. If they are UK legislation those that do not suit us can be abandoned.