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spathiphyllum | 15:26 Fri 01st Nov 2019 | News
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I thought the Irish blood was all about honour?

Seems he has none.

A UFC fighter worth 85 million punched a man in the face in a bar, who was in his fifties, simply because he refused a drink from the professional UFC fighter.

He's been ordered to pay £860 and has avoided jail, even though his punches could be fatal to the average Joe.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/conor-mcgregor-fined-860-after-17186141
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Since the incident at Bellator 187 in 2017 he has lurched from one outburst to another and if he doesn't get this in check now he will lose everything he has worked for - worse than that, someone could die.
15:56 Fri 01st Nov 2019
And Andy has already made his point about the stance of the companies involved and how unlikely further punishment is.
Mcgregor is Irish, born in Dublin. I was incorrect however in calling him a Gypsy, he isn't. I was mistaking him for Tyson Fury who has a similar look.
spath - // It seems connor paid an undisclosed sum of money to the man he punched. I wonder if this had an affect on his punishment? //

I can be pretty sure it had no effect - for exactly the reasons I have pointed out - criminals don't get a swerve for dipping into deep pockets and paying people off, that's not how the law operates.
If anything, paying someone off is an admission of guilt.
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"criminals don't get a swerve for dipping into deep pockets and paying people off, that's not how the law operates."

No but showing remorse and saying sorry to the victim can as far as i understand. Surely compensation is a form of this?
//It's just always what he's doing! So i thought, surely he wouldn't want to tarnish the Irish with his egotistical actions//

You think he's tarnished us, the whole nation? And I've only read about him doing it twice so can you post links to all the other times please.
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Ummm, watch how he talks whilst on the UFC panel but more importantly, listen to what he says.
spath - // "criminals don't get a swerve for dipping into deep pockets and paying people off, that's not how the law operates."

No but showing remorse and saying sorry to the victim can as far as i understand. Surely compensation is a form of this? //

If it was offered as evidence on court as evidence of contrition, it may be included in the sentencing decision, but it is by no means assured - if it was, anyone with money would be paying off people left right and centre and enjoying a life of utter immorality.

The law is equal and fair to prevent exactly that sort of scenario, and I have pointed out previously.
Not casting aspersions but sounds like he could be suffering from “road rage”
Spath - No, I don't watch sports like that. He's a tool but he doesn't tarnish the Irish.
calmck - // Not casting aspersions but sounds like he could be suffering from “road rage” //

In an ideal world, people with the mentality that enjoys hurting people for money as part of their personality, could be controlled only to show that side of their personality in a professional setting.

Unfortunately, as in this case, it's often not a side of the personality, it IS the personality, and as such, it is ready to evidence itself at the least, or even without, provocation.

That's how situations like this arise.
This thug could quite easily find his quietus in some shady bar in the US. The have concealed guns there.
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Sorry Andy i missed your point at 16:35 as the new page started
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David i thought the same.

Then he’d call you a winp though?

I personally think blind shots at middle aged men are cowardly moves.

It doesn't take much for a one punch kill when its unsuspected.
spath - // Sorry Andy i missed your point at 16:35 as the new page started //

No problem at all.
//Talking about this, NJ
http://blog.greenflag.com/2017/speeding-drivers/ //

Alas, zacs, that article (along with many others at that time) was totally, totally misleading. I’ll explain why.

First of all, there were no new laws. All that happened was that the sentencing guidelines for the most serious speeding offences were amended. There are three bands of “seriousness” for speeding fines. Using the 70mph limit to illustrate (similar bands exist for lower limits) they are 71-90, 91-100 and 101 and above. Prior to that change, the recommended fines were half a week’s income for the first band and a week’s income for the other two. The change increased the recommended fine to one and a half weeks’ income for the most serious band. That’s all it did. There were no new laws, just a minor change to the recommended fine for the most serious cases.

It should also be borne in mind that these guidelines are applicable only to cases that are dealt with in court. The overwhelming majority of speeding offences are dealt with by either the offer of a course (for speeds up to Limit+10%+9mph, costing the driver around £90 and half a day of their time) or a fixed penalty (£100 and three points, offered for speeds up to 95mph in a 70 limit, with appropriate levels for lower limits).

So whilst the headline (”New laws mean bigger fines for drivers who earn more”) is by and large correct (apart from the fact that there were no new laws, only new sentencing guidelines) there was nothing new about it. Those convicted of speeding in court have always been subject to means-related fines. The biggest misleading phrase in the article was this:

“Having fines means tested is the biggest change here.”

It was not a change at all, let alone the biggest one. The vast majority of fines levied in a court are means related. A glance at the sentencing guidelines will see references to “Band A”, “Band B” and Band C” fines. These are the three levels I mentioned above. There are other higher bands but they are rarely used, and certainly not for speeding offences.

I don’t know why the media chose to sensationalise that minor change in the way that it did.

On a more general note, there certainly are mechanisms for courts to treat different offenders committing similar offences differently. There is a multitude of factors (apart from means) that can be taken into account when sentencing.
Thanks, NJ. Nice to have some expert nollidge
Did Ant McPartlin (may be wrong spelling) get a higher fine, because of his earnings?
I agree it should take circumstances into account. There is no equality in finding a billionaire £50, for instance. That isn't equality.
Predictive text changed “roid” to road. I was suggesting the aggression was/is the result of substance abuse
Some punch - not. Blind-sided the guy with the uppercut but still didn't dislodge him from the chair. Ha!

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