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Theland - // Yes there are occasions where same sexes dance together as has been pointed out, but our traditions, (which mean diddly squat these days), would provide us with traditional formats, and not two blokes dancing in that particular situation.
But of course, the politically correct brigade are determined to drive a coach and horses through all of our traditions, and I hate to think of the end result, not a great big melting pot, but a stinking swamp. //
I believe you are confusing what is a custom, for what is a tradition, and the two are not the same by any means.
A custom is an accepted and common way of doing things, a tradition is the passing on of customs or beliefs, like religion ironically!
But society has always evolved by abandoning some customs, and adding new ones, that is how it evolves, and always will do.
It used to be a custom for white people to own slaves, we don't do that any more, that custom has died out.
We do dance as couples, a man with a woman, and that custom remains, but that does not mean it cannot be adapted, and clearly it is being adapted.
Your hand-wringing assumption that two men dancing together on national television signals the end of civilisation as we know it, will be proven to be utterly groundless.
I recall Steve Jones swearing at Bill Grundy was seen at the time as a sign that the great unwashed were going to take to the streets, but that didn't happen either.
You need to develop a sense of proportion.
But of course, the politically correct brigade are determined to drive a coach and horses through all of our traditions, and I hate to think of the end result, not a great big melting pot, but a stinking swamp. //
I believe you are confusing what is a custom, for what is a tradition, and the two are not the same by any means.
A custom is an accepted and common way of doing things, a tradition is the passing on of customs or beliefs, like religion ironically!
But society has always evolved by abandoning some customs, and adding new ones, that is how it evolves, and always will do.
It used to be a custom for white people to own slaves, we don't do that any more, that custom has died out.
We do dance as couples, a man with a woman, and that custom remains, but that does not mean it cannot be adapted, and clearly it is being adapted.
Your hand-wringing assumption that two men dancing together on national television signals the end of civilisation as we know it, will be proven to be utterly groundless.
I recall Steve Jones swearing at Bill Grundy was seen at the time as a sign that the great unwashed were going to take to the streets, but that didn't happen either.
You need to develop a sense of proportion.
Theland - // My gay son? Doubt it. He's gay not camp. //
You do love to point that out at every opportunity don't you?
Is it because your son's straight demeanour means that strangers can't pin him as gay in the way they could if he was a screaming queen?
You make it sound like you are thankful for small mercies.
Well, he is gay, but thank god it's not obvious!!!
If you were my father, I'd be ashamed to be thought of in that way, and not embraced entirely for who I am, and I would want my father not to be qualifying me to total strangers for his own satisfaction.
You do love to point that out at every opportunity don't you?
Is it because your son's straight demeanour means that strangers can't pin him as gay in the way they could if he was a screaming queen?
You make it sound like you are thankful for small mercies.
Well, he is gay, but thank god it's not obvious!!!
If you were my father, I'd be ashamed to be thought of in that way, and not embraced entirely for who I am, and I would want my father not to be qualifying me to total strangers for his own satisfaction.
Theland - // Gness - A poor example of a Christian? Was wondering when that one would come up.
So you are an authority on Christian behaviour as well?
There's a lot of them on here. //
There are actually no authorities on any faith on here, there are a select few who like to think they are, and condescend accordingly, but thinking you are something does not make it who you are.
So you are an authority on Christian behaviour as well?
There's a lot of them on here. //
There are actually no authorities on any faith on here, there are a select few who like to think they are, and condescend accordingly, but thinking you are something does not make it who you are.
Mozz - // I loved that. Grundy (clearly been at the minibar) trying to flirt with Siouxsie is magnificent TV. //
Contrary to the national media hysteria, the show was only shown in the greater London area, we didn't see it for ages.
I remember Johnny Rotten being polite, he actually apologised for swearing, and of course Grundy, being as drunk as he was patronising, goaded him into repeating what he said, and then provoked Steve Jones into his individual tirade.
Grundy was never seen on TV again.
Contrary to the national media hysteria, the show was only shown in the greater London area, we didn't see it for ages.
I remember Johnny Rotten being polite, he actually apologised for swearing, and of course Grundy, being as drunk as he was patronising, goaded him into repeating what he said, and then provoked Steve Jones into his individual tirade.
Grundy was never seen on TV again.
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