School Tried Bodycams For Teachers

[TheDevil]

I do not think this is how teachers should be distancing themselves from pupils.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/feb/07/schools-trial-body-cameras-to-aid-safety-and-monitor-behaviour

[Nical]

TD, what would you recommend for 'distancing'?

[TheDevil]

If (as a student) you see a teacher wearing a bodycam, what impression does that give, in the learning sense of the environment? A negative one. It indicates the teachers are battling the students, and need body cams to prove action etc.. like a teachers word wouldn't be good enough?

The only way you should distance pupils and students is with attire.

[rockyracoon]

It doesn’t look like they’re using them in the classrooms, just at the school gates. They say it’s working so how can you argue.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Wouldnt that need permission from the parents to film their children?

[Nical]

Thanks, TD - I wasn't sure what you meant when you said 'how they should be distancing themselves...', I thought you had other ideas for that.

[TheDevil]

"They say it’s working so how can you argue."

Are you allowed to film school children at the school gates? Is that not a bit edgy?

I still oppose the whole scheme if it's just in the playground, just in the corridors or just at the gates. It is not needed and gives off a very common vibe and impression.

[rockyracoon]

No different to CCTV I suppose, and plenty of schools have that.

[Mamyalynne]

//Reveal said one of the users, a secondary school in Hampshire that did not want to be named, wanted body cameras for safeguarding and security after staff and a student were attacked last year by outsiders, forcing the school into lockdown.

“The main reason we brought cameras in was not to deal with our own students but to deal with unknown children that came on to our site from other schools and the local community,” a deputy headteacher at the school said.//

[Nical]

TD, it's a naïve in the extreme to think a 'teacher's word would be good enough'. There have been many claims, false allegations over the years - and it's one teacher's word against that of the accuser (who often has friends to corroborate, also known as lie!).

[TheDevil]

It is different from CCCTV, it's turning a teacher from a teacher into a PCSO in theory.

[Mamyalynne]

If they help with the safety of both staff and pupils, fine.

[TheDevil]

the idea that you could get in trouble from a teacher is doubled if they're wearing a camera that they will literally use to get you in trouble with.

Teachers are losing respect due to ponzi schemes like attaching cameras to them.

[TheDevil]

I'd find it hard to respect a teacher who used a bodycam. It's 2020 this wasn't needed before and it isn't needed now.

[Mamyalynne]

Oh do behave, you are being over dramatic now.

[Old_Geezer]

I don't believe one needs permission to photograph folk in public places. Suspect filming is covered by the same rules.

But there is major 'them and us' division when this sort of surveillance is adopted. If teachers were allowed to enforce discipline in the classroom instead of today's, " touch me and I'll sue, I know my rights", nonsense then this sort of thing wouldn't be even considered.

[rockyracoon]

”It is different from CCCTV, it's turning a teacher from a teacher into a PCSO in theory.”

Not in my opinion.

[TheDevil]

Maybe we should look into the past for help with discipline and bring back the cane? Evidently since it's disappearance students are running wild, so much so that we need CCTV on all our robot teachers to prove if sally bit harry or if molly poked holly or if fred and jack spat on the floor.

[TheDevil]

Rocky fact is if they wanted CCTV they would have attacked a camera to the gate not a teacher.

Also what if you needed to tell that teacher some sensitive information about yourself or someone else or a home situation and there is a camera recording all your words and actions and expressions? It'd put you off telling that teacher or going to them for help / advice.

[TheDevil]

attached *

[Mamyalynne]

Students from elsewhere barge into the School grounds and you expect teachers and staff to round them up and cane them?

Hello, are you with us?