Teacake Keeps Posting, Accusing The Government Of Lying

[ToraToraTora]

yet despite dozens of requests on multiple threads there is nary an example and all requests for such are ignored. Is AB facilitating libel here?

[Togo]

Another thread descends into scribble and hieroglyphics after a takeover bid by two more attention seekers. Ta TTT. Chin Chin.

[Peter Pedant]

// scribble and hieroglyphics ....... Ta TTT. Chin Chin.//

er tata Toag Chin up
does anyone know what Togos scribble is all about?

[THECORBYLOON]

"A hope cannot be a lie, the two are mutually exclusive. 

A lie is a statement made, knowing that it is untrue."

If I were to say, "I hope England wins the next football World Cup." that would be a lie.

[Peter Pedant]

// the Prime Minister in recovery mode they are merely, like the parasitic lifeforms...//

oh yeah OK hieroglyphic right

[Peter Pedant]

oh I was gonna do
I hope the present King of France doesnt die ! (*)

(*) thanks to Noam Chomsky, and saul kripke - yeah the one on Big Bang Theory if you like

[Peter Pedant]

hey got one! got one!

" I hope Pres Trump gets re elected"

ha! think of that !

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // Another thread descends into scribble and hieroglyphics after a takeover bid by two more attention seekers. //

How do you know the difference between someone who is simply adding a view, and an 'attention seeker'?

[ToraToraTora]

PP: //prima facie just means "looks bad" // - yes and in a defamation case the plaintiff must demonstrate they are not Vichy British. From their own thoughts and actions I can demonstrate the opposite. I'd say that "looks bad" - for them.

[Peter Pedant]

andie - you are over-thinking Togos post

[ToraToraTora]

TCL yes because you knowingly made a false statement.

[Peter Pedant]

// yes and in a defamation case the plaintiff must demonstrate they are not Vichy British.//

no actually they dont - ater the recent reforms
and no actually they didnt - before the recent reforms

it isnt actionable - end of [ as someone we both know, exclaims to end an argument]

[andy-hughes]

Corby - // If I were to say, "I hope England wins the next football World Cup." that would be a lie. //

No it would not, because it is not a statement of fact, it is a wish, and the two are not connected.

If you 'hope' anything, you cannot be proved right or wrong, so it cannot be a lie.

'The earth is flat.' is an untrue statement, because the fact that is not flat is provable.

However, if that statement is made by someone who believes it to be true, then they are not telling a lie.

[THECORBYLOON]

"If we're going down the slander and libel route there may yet be a class action in the offing by the previously accused Vichy British and others citing various instances going back years. :-)"

Unless they are named or identifiable individuals, I'm pretty sure they cannot be libelled.

[ToraToraTora]

either way, I can demonstrate the same thing.

[ToraToraTora]

TCL because we know, you hate the English we'd assume sarcasm.

[Peter Pedant]

// because the fact that is not flat is provable.//

er if it is not provable then it is not a fact - is it?

I agree you can exclude various things such as - "do you want a cup of tea" - all of which is provable by the way ....
but there is a danger of exclusion of so much that there isnt much to discuss ( restricted number of sentences populating the defined world of discourse )

[douglas9401]

Jesus, Tora, put the bottle away.

[Peter Pedant]

// Unless they are named or identifiable individuals, I'm pretty sure they cannot be libelled.// is a good start ....

the rest of the so-called libel case is a crock of shot as well

[teacake44]

Keep it going guys and gals, and James Bond with inside knowledge :0) be careful teacake, ohoooooo James I love to be threated :0) keep going for 300 posts.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANDY, I KNOW my statement to be untrue and if asked if it were a lie, I would say it was a lie.