Teacake Keeps Posting, Accusing The Government Of Lying

[ToraToraTora]

yet despite dozens of requests on multiple threads there is nary an example and all requests for such are ignored. Is AB facilitating libel here?

[poorclare]

Its a lovely evening so I am going to sit in the back garden
and relax with a cuppa ~ certainly no teacake ~ it would
give me a headache.

Have a nice evening.

[andy-hughes]

Corby - // ANDY, I KNOW my statement to be untrue and if asked if it were a lie, I would say it was a lie. //

Because you 'know' something does not make it a fact, it makes it what you believe, which is not the same thing.

The police 'know' thousands of criminals are guilty on a daily basis, but without facts to present as evidence, those criminals remain free.

You can 'know' lots of things, but that does not make them 'true' or 'false' in the strict sense of those words.

[Bobbisox1]

Poor Clare , enjoy you quiet time

[poorclare]

Thank you Bobbisox1

Shall come back tomorrow refreshed.

Keep safe

[THECORBYLOON]

ANDY, since folk who know me would know I would not say such a thing and mean it, I can safely say they would also agree that it was a lie.

[Ellipsis]

> the problem was not a shortage, it was a problem with distribution.A good example is the present situation where PPE 's were available in Turkey but then got delayed.

Wow, is this a politician in disguise? Such sophistry. If it's in Turkey when it's needed then it's not here when it's needed - hence, a shortage.

[teacake44]

Hancock blamed distribution for 5 weeks, before he realised he had to come clean about there being none to deliver. How can you have a distribution problem when you have 20.000 drivers. ( army) a lie!!

[fiction-factory]

Distribution problems means fairly sharing out and distributing a scarce resource to several thousands of different locations (care homes, GP practices, hospitals, pharmacies, Police/ambulance etc) from Shetland Isles to Leeds to Northern Ireland to Cornwall to London all within a very short timescale.

[andy-hughes]

Corby - // ANDY, since folk who know me would know I would not say such a thing and mean it, I can safely say they would also agree that it was a lie. //

You seem keen to expand your same argument which does just that - expands it, it does not make it correct.

Because your friends 'know' your view on something does not mean that it proves that you are speaking the truth, or indeed not, no matter if it is one friend, or hundreds.

Hollywood 'knew' that Rock Hudson was a movie heart throb with millions of female fans, and they 'knew' he could not possibly be gay.

But he was - and their 'knowing' something about him was no proof to the contrary whatsoever.

To 'know' something does not prove it as a fact - and that is the point I keep trying to get you to understand.

[Peter Pedant]

\\ the problem was not a shortage, it was a problem with distribution//
this is covered in a area called "who feeds paris?"

Changing the mindset of IT. Today I'm giving a keynote at Cloud Connect Silicon Valley entitled “Who Feeds Paris?” The question comes from a book called “Naked Economics” by Charles Wheelan. What he means by “who feeds Paris?” is that there are millions of people who live in Paris and eat at least three times a day

and there is a distribution network ( continues PP as the quote seems to have run out) which is not planned not congrolled but still works

Hancock and the ministry have centralised NHS logistics on the grounds that it 'must be more efficint' - it clearly isnt
and was predicted to be so

but what the hell - we pay our taxes and watch the Great and Good squander them

[fiction-factory]

Yes, good analogy, PP. The whole PPE procurement thing still puzzles me bearing in mind the Lansley reforms.

Individual care homes source their own supplies in normal times but obviously need support when demand is outstripping supply.

GP practices surely don't ring Matt Hancock up normally if they run out of gloves- they order themselves, but maybe from an NHS supply source that has now run dry.

For hospitals, I assume NHS trusts procure their own stocks but perhaps from some sort of centrally approved list of authorised suppliers. It's never been the Health Secretary's job to order PPE. I am not sure why individual trust managers have not been given free rein to find their own supplies from whatever source they can- and if that means publishing Invitations To Tender to local firms then so be it.

[Old_Geezer]

Everyone slags off the existing government. It's a national pastime. Hardly worth censoring unless way out of hand.