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Travellers Set Up Camp By Coronavirus Testing Centre
so travellers can travel and setup at will, when and wherever..but joe public gets fined or a telling off, double standards here, why is this allowed, it makes a mockery of so called lockdown.
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//why is Fender's suggestion at 00:26 so outrageous? Fender bang on. I've been saying for years that we should give the council powers to confiscate their Porsches etc to pay for the damage they cause and powers to move them on without hissing about in court for a week. Maybe they'd join the human race then//
First things first, I agree that they must be held responsible for any crimes committed, particularly criminal damage of property they have taken root on. If they left places in the same state they left them, they would find that people are more accepting of them.
On to Fender's post...
//you could ban them from driving, confiscate there cars//
On what basis? Despite everything, they have rights. Driving bans cannot be handed out without reason, and property cannot be confiscated without reason. If they have commited a criminal offence, or own the vehicle illegally, then no problem, but otherwise it's just not doable.
//finger prints them all and see if there's any match on police databases for wanted
criminals, child endangerment, public nuisance, illegal parking//
That's a grey area. Can prople be nicked and profiled without reason? I'm no expert (maybe RC can comment on the legality of this), but it seems dodgy.
//find faults with vehicles, thus have to be destroyed or repaired, then find more faults with vehicles//
To me, this sounds like the old "pulling someone over for a broken headlight" ploy. Making up faults just so vehicles can be removed. Our police force is better than that.
//then crush them while they watch.//
Vindictive much?
Look, I agree that they need to be policed, but not throigh illegal means. Prosecute them for what they've done, not make up crap in order to trap them.
First things first, I agree that they must be held responsible for any crimes committed, particularly criminal damage of property they have taken root on. If they left places in the same state they left them, they would find that people are more accepting of them.
On to Fender's post...
//you could ban them from driving, confiscate there cars//
On what basis? Despite everything, they have rights. Driving bans cannot be handed out without reason, and property cannot be confiscated without reason. If they have commited a criminal offence, or own the vehicle illegally, then no problem, but otherwise it's just not doable.
//finger prints them all and see if there's any match on police databases for wanted
criminals, child endangerment, public nuisance, illegal parking//
That's a grey area. Can prople be nicked and profiled without reason? I'm no expert (maybe RC can comment on the legality of this), but it seems dodgy.
//find faults with vehicles, thus have to be destroyed or repaired, then find more faults with vehicles//
To me, this sounds like the old "pulling someone over for a broken headlight" ploy. Making up faults just so vehicles can be removed. Our police force is better than that.
//then crush them while they watch.//
Vindictive much?
Look, I agree that they need to be policed, but not throigh illegal means. Prosecute them for what they've done, not make up crap in order to trap them.
It's the same lot that have been there before. They camp in the tennis club car park and they like it because they can use the showers there - the staff are probably too scared to tell them they are not entitled to. It's made the news because there is a Covid testing centre nearby. They'll clear off again in the future and then come back again. It's not news really.
police pull them over in every county they drive through and inspect there cars and trailer homes, safety and all that, and for any stolen items reported from burglaries in previous towns they drove thorugh or stopped in, harass them off the road or back to ireland, they are parasitic invaders, like fleas, do thye add any postitves to society.
i think it's all take..like to rub up society with a snarl, because we can.
i think it's all take..like to rub up society with a snarl, because we can.
mozz: "On what basis? Despite everything, they have rights." - yes but they are rarely legal, no tax no insurance so that's the basis
"Driving bans cannot be handed out without reason" - tot up the offences"
"property cannot be confiscated without reason" - change the law so councils can in lue of damage.
"If they have committed a criminal offence, or own the vehicle illegally, then no problem, but otherwise it's just not doable. " - agreed why are the police not enforcing the law? and please no horse tish about being afraid, I suspect it's too much admin for plod, well they need to enforce the law on us all.
"Driving bans cannot be handed out without reason" - tot up the offences"
"property cannot be confiscated without reason" - change the law so councils can in lue of damage.
"If they have committed a criminal offence, or own the vehicle illegally, then no problem, but otherwise it's just not doable. " - agreed why are the police not enforcing the law? and please no horse tish about being afraid, I suspect it's too much admin for plod, well they need to enforce the law on us all.
The Traveller Tribes are from all over, not just Ireland and I would hazard a guess if they did a genetic test only a few would be true Romany but that really does matter to them. Many towns in the UK have settlements of them, they either buy up bricks and mortar houses in a certain area or they harass the council until they give in and let them put their permanent caravans on agricultural land. A few towns do have legal permanent sites.
Nothing can be done about them travelling the roads as its not illegal to pull a caravan on a public road but it is illegal to park on private property. Problem is they take no notice of the Law and they know how long it takes to get an eviction order so know at least they will have a couple of weeks of free camping. They play the 'Heritage' Card 'following their ancestors' and all that bull -a bit like the Inuit being allowed to kill whales in Canada. I doubt there is anything anyone will ever be able to do about them.
Nothing can be done about them travelling the roads as its not illegal to pull a caravan on a public road but it is illegal to park on private property. Problem is they take no notice of the Law and they know how long it takes to get an eviction order so know at least they will have a couple of weeks of free camping. They play the 'Heritage' Card 'following their ancestors' and all that bull -a bit like the Inuit being allowed to kill whales in Canada. I doubt there is anything anyone will ever be able to do about them.
//"If they have committed a criminal offence, or own the vehicle illegally, then no problem, but otherwise it's just not doable. " - agreed why are the police not enforcing the law? and please no horse tish about being afraid, I suspect it's too much admin for plod, well they need to enforce the law on us all.//
Agreed. The plods are there to stop crime and arrest criminals, so if they're not up to that most basic of job requirements, something needs to be done.
Agreed. The plods are there to stop crime and arrest criminals, so if they're not up to that most basic of job requirements, something needs to be done.
//police pull them over in every county they drive through and inspect there cars and trailer homes, safety and all that, and for any stolen items reported from burglaries in previous towns they drove thorugh or stopped in//
Thay idea does have merit.
//harass them off the road//
The police can't harass them, they have their hands full harrassing black folk.
Thay idea does have merit.
//harass them off the road//
The police can't harass them, they have their hands full harrassing black folk.
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