Business & Finance6 mins ago
Are The Unions Being obstructive?
And trying to score political points by saying Teachers have no guarantee of safety to return to work June 1st?
( I know we have teachers and ex teachers on here, what do they think?)
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( I know we have teachers and ex teachers on here, what do they think?)
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Denmark has been given as an example of where it was seen as one of the first steps in easing the lockdown https://
10:37 Fri 15th May 2020
For senior schools I'm aware of the plans for y10 to restart on 1st June ready for GCSEs next year but I'm not aware there are plans for year 8s to return yet but I guess the intention is for some other years to have some time in school before the summer holidays rather than make them wait until September .
As for class sizes my own view is 8-10 is the most that would work if social distancing is to work for pupils. For teachers it is almost impossible unless they don't circulate or all teachers and pupils wear masks.
I can of course see why teachers are nervous- I was uncomfortable in March. Now I'm lucky enough not to need the money so in the unlikely event I, as a supply teacher, am offered work in June , I'll say "no thanks, I'll leave it and reconsider in September".
Having said that, I still feel that for teachers in this environment ofsmall classes with rules in place regarding cleaning, one way systems, keeping groups together, etc, it's no riskier than the risks faced by supermarket staff for example.
If the alternative is furloughing at 80% of pay- or giving teachers June off and working August instead- it would be interesting to see how many teachers would choose to work for normal pay.
As for class sizes my own view is 8-10 is the most that would work if social distancing is to work for pupils. For teachers it is almost impossible unless they don't circulate or all teachers and pupils wear masks.
I can of course see why teachers are nervous- I was uncomfortable in March. Now I'm lucky enough not to need the money so in the unlikely event I, as a supply teacher, am offered work in June , I'll say "no thanks, I'll leave it and reconsider in September".
Having said that, I still feel that for teachers in this environment ofsmall classes with rules in place regarding cleaning, one way systems, keeping groups together, etc, it's no riskier than the risks faced by supermarket staff for example.
If the alternative is furloughing at 80% of pay- or giving teachers June off and working August instead- it would be interesting to see how many teachers would choose to work for normal pay.
The teachers don't want to teach, parents don't want their kids to go back, most kids would say yay to never going back. Why not just make the closures permanent and use the Squillions of quid currently being wasted on paying employees( that don't want to be there including their wages) and use the buildings to house the refugees and homeless? When the "teachers" decide they would like to return to brainwashing the kids unimpeded the Councils(who run the Education system and not Boris) could agree to lengthy talks regarding resumption. The almost perfect ironic contradiction is that the unions are prepping to go to war with their employers the Councils, the vast majority of which are( you're ahead of me here aren't you) Yep Labour run.
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Got to love this.
""How ironic, therefore, that the posh elite of Eton College is now doing far more than the National Education Union to support our nation’s children. On the one hand, we have Eton offering free, online top-quality lessons. On the other hand, we have the National Education Union slamming a lid on the provision of online learning – partly on the grounds of ‘elf ’n’ safety’ and partly because 93 per cent of youngsters having access to digital devices is insufficient.
Should the union not be focused on ensuring the Government fulfils its promise to equip the unequipped seven per cent of children, rather than declaring what all cannot have, none shall have?
I wonder, though, if the union has a greater concern. The promotion of free, high-quality online teaching, such as that on offer from Eton and the Perse School, Cambridge, could be highly dangerous for those union members who happen to be less competent teachers.""
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""How ironic, therefore, that the posh elite of Eton College is now doing far more than the National Education Union to support our nation’s children. On the one hand, we have Eton offering free, online top-quality lessons. On the other hand, we have the National Education Union slamming a lid on the provision of online learning – partly on the grounds of ‘elf ’n’ safety’ and partly because 93 per cent of youngsters having access to digital devices is insufficient.
Should the union not be focused on ensuring the Government fulfils its promise to equip the unequipped seven per cent of children, rather than declaring what all cannot have, none shall have?
I wonder, though, if the union has a greater concern. The promotion of free, high-quality online teaching, such as that on offer from Eton and the Perse School, Cambridge, could be highly dangerous for those union members who happen to be less competent teachers.""
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My kids are in year 7 and year 9 and I’ve been told they will not be back at school until September at the earliest (I still have no clue as to when boy#1 will be back at uni (needs to do more ambulance hours) or when boy#2 will start year 12). There is no point sending them to school to sit in a classroom with a non specialist teacher, (that’s if they can get there given that there is currently one packed bus an hour), they may as well work from home.
As for the teachers, given the amount of work they are setting, marking and giving feed back on (not to mention chasing up work that is missing), I think they are probably finding it way harder to have the kids off coupled with the fact that they have their own kids to sort out and they are attending physical school on a rota basis.
As for the teachers, given the amount of work they are setting, marking and giving feed back on (not to mention chasing up work that is missing), I think they are probably finding it way harder to have the kids off coupled with the fact that they have their own kids to sort out and they are attending physical school on a rota basis.
^ Yes, sherrardk, some teachers are doing as much as before, particularly conscientious ones at secondary school, but a lot of the work that is being 'set' is to do the Joe Wicks workout, do some online MyMaths type exercises where the system marks it, and some lessons are being provided centrally so teachers don't have to prepare them. At primary schools the workloads are quite low overall- teachers may be going in once a week on average (some do more, some less) to cover generally small groups children and the lessons/days are fairly relaxed- drawing posters/ rainbows and playing outside seem to take up most of the day. There is some planning at home but it's not the same as preparing lessons, managing classrooms, marking work, doing reports, lesson observations etc
FF// there won't be a vaccine ready by September//
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I think there are more scientists who think there will never be a vaccine than think that one will be ready in September. The SUN likes these stories but I think the consensus is that it will be next year at the earliest before anything is tested and produced to scale, and even then it would take ages to vaccinate enough people.
We have to plan for life without a vaccine
We have to plan for life without a vaccine
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