Bad News For Tories.

[gulliver1]

Chaos and a car crash. Tories begin to think Boris has lost his Vim, (not that he ever had any} .
Missteps , U turns, and fears for Boris,s health, leave senior Party members openly muttering he will have to go.
When summoned in front of the 1922 Committee he was warned about Walling himself from the Party.
Throw Cummings into the mix , and he will have to go before the next G/E. I hope he does not go, because he will be an Asset to Labour .

[ToraToraTora]

I have nothing to add to ZMs erudite comments at 16:28 at the start of this thread.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "Good news for the Tories, apart from a new leader, Labour are exactly the same lot who have lost the last three General Elections. " - 4, and real Labour haven't won since 1974. They won't get a sniff until at least 2029, poor gully, a lot to suck up there me old china. Since they were formed in 1899 they have only had 4 PMs win a general election and one of those was by nicking the Tories clothes. Oh dear!

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: " Blair got 418 seats in 1997 and 413 In 2001.
Not sure you can argue those weren’t proper wins. " - they were proper wins alright, it just wasn't proper Labour!

[ToraToraTora]

gully: "Gromit 18.40, when the Majority on the news section on a/b who are 99% Tory.
Show a little respect for me, then I will show respect for them OK. " - then show some respect for yourself sunshine.

[ToraToraTora]

gully:"No matter what the radicalised say, Boris will not last the full term." - I think you'd get more respect here if you could illustrate how that could come to pass.

[ToraToraTora]

it seems I did have something to add after all!

[Gromit]

Massive landslides such as the one Boris got in December are incredibly difficult to overturn in one election, so even if SKS does very well, he will probably lose the next election.

Though we are in unprecedented times. Will the public still remember that the UK had 35,000 more corona fatalities than Germany? Will Brexit prove to be a rip roaring success, or a terrible self inflicted wound? We do not know now, but all will be clear in 3 or 4 years.

[mushroom25]

// Will the public still remember that the UK had 35,000 more corona fatalities than Germany? //

it's not over until the fat lady sings.....

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-germanys-r-number-rockets-again-from-1-79-to-2-88-12012143

[Togo]

I wondered if our resident doom monger would flag it up Mushroom. Seems not.. you had to do it for him. It looks like it is going to get nastier still. The more we find out about this "virus" the more alarming it gets every time. Food processing plants have massive problems in a number of Countries and we are blithely told not to worry ....cooking will kill the virus. Oh Yeah? What next? Cold meat and savouries processing plants, sandwich making and cake making factories? Salad processing and fruit packaging plants? Will the "virus" survive in water/seawater and affect fish? The more we learn about all the ways that this can re produce the more I think that the genetic code was indeed made in a lab.

""Seven-hundred people were locked down inside the building on Thursday after two residents tested positive.
By Friday, 120 were found to be infected, and the following day 200 clashed with police as they tried to break out.""

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11921144/germany-coronavirus-r-rate-triples-2-88-two-days-second-wave/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly

[jim360]

There is no sense whatsoever in the "made in a lab" conclusion. Indeed the exact opposite conclusion should follow, because the speed at which we learn things about the virus should clue you into the fact that humanity is simply not competent enough to have developed it specifically. The virus came from some animal or other, probably bats and/or pangolins, and mutated so that it was able to infect humans. No conspiracy is needed.

[youngmafbog]

Nonsense, it could well be man made or a mix. In the West we really dont know.

The Chinese Government are commies and very secretive. Now while I know you are all for their sort of regime I am pretty sure you dont have access to what they know.

[jim360]

Wow, really?!

First of all, I do not and never have supported the current Chinese regime. I should have thought you'd have noticed this, based on my other posts on the subject.

Secondly, studies of the virus from across the world have concluded that it is overwhelmingly likely that the virus was a natural mutation. There is no evidence beyond baseless conspiracy to support any other picture.