Will Priti Useless Actually Do Something This Time?

[youngmafbog]

No doubt more hot air from the Home Secretary who talks the talk but doesnt even crawl the crawl let alone walk the walk.

Either she gets her ass into gear immediately or she should go along with Johnson and Han cock.

Shame really I had really high hopes for "Hang 'em" Patel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8601819/Furious-Priti-Patel-backs-sending-Royal-Navy-tackle-migrant-crisis.html

[dannyk13]

Gulliver. It has nothing to do with Brexit, as well you know.It should not affect you anyway as you do not reside here.

[ichkeria]

One of the big problems just now is that many traffickers are exploiting the misconception that Brexit will prevent illegal immigration

[Old_Geezer]

Who has such a misconception ?

[Old_Geezer]

Danny. Those "fullfact"s seem to miss the fact that having reached a safe country then they have found refuge. Which means that if they move on they are no longer refugees, they're immigrants. Most likely illegal.

[ichkeria]

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Who has such a misconception ? "

The migrants (obviously?)

[New Judge]

I’ve read the “Full Fact” gumpf before, Danny, and it doesn’t explain the whole story, which is more complex than the article makes out. The UN Convention (and I don’t know why “Full Fact” mentions the Geneva Convention) says this:

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Article 31 refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee

1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
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This is implicit in that it makes the entrants such as we see at Dover, liable to penalties. They have not come directly from a place “…where their life or freedom was threatened.” They should, by implication, present themselves to the authorities in the first safe country they arrive in (which is usually not even France, but a few steps back along the path).

On top of that, the EU’s own “Dublin Agreement” (to which we are still party at least until the end of the year) places the responsibility for processing asylum claims on the first EU country the migrant reaches. There are still “adjustments” under consideration to that agreement, principally because some countries – notably Italy and Greece – have become overwhelmed with applications in recent years. But it still stands substantially as it is.

But none of this really matters. The UK has the right to prevent unauthorised people from landing on its shores. It doesn't have to wait until they get here then ask them what they want. There’s nothing unusual or special about this – try pitching up in a rubber boat in somewhere like Cuba or the USA and see how you get on. But the UK chooses not to exercise this right. Instead it gives those who get halfway across the English Channel a tow into a UK port. It is aiding and abetting their illegal entry which is, as I have been saying for some time, nothing short of an invasion. The answer to the problem is to prevent these people from reaching UK shores. If it means taking them in tow and returning them to France then that’s what should be done. But I'll not hold my breath.

[dannyk13]

NJ, nothing about this really seems clear.I just hope that the RN do get involved and dump the immigrants back in France.

[allenlondon]

Sink ‘em! That’ll learn them not to try and get into the British Reich.

Or we could build some camps, to concentrate them in? Now there’s a good wheeze...

[gulliver1]

No problem , send the Legal EU Immigrants back to the EU , to make room for the Illegal ones. Well done Brexiteers , think it's called shooting oneself in the foot

[dannyk13]

Gulliver, when are you going to understand that it as nothing to do with Brexit, also it doesn't concern you as you do not reside in the UK.

[Bobbisox1]

Good luck with that Danny :0)

[naomi24]

Gulliver, generally legal EU immigrants are not being sent back. Watch your feet.

[New Judge]

I'll only address your point once, Gully, because essentially it's a load of twaddle.

You know as well as I do that illegal immigration to the UK has nothing to do with whether we are an EU member or not. Italy and Greece are EU members and are likely to remain so, but they suffer from asylum and illegal immigration more than most. Had the UK voted to remain in the EU the situation we are facing today would be no different. So let's put that to bed and keep the discussion sensible.

[dannyk13]

NJ// and keep the discussion sensible.//
Little hope of that with Gulliver.

[teacake44]

Anyhow Boris is very busy still trying to impress the public with his goody bags, see he was all dressed in his high vis jacket playing lego at the building site yesterday. :0)

[gulliver1]

The Legal immigrants have not been sent back , they are returning to their Eu Countries voluntary .Because of the Fear Brexit, and what is to come, and I can't say I blame them .

[naomi24]

And you're already there to greet them, Gulliver. Now you'll all be happy. :o)

[New Judge]

//The Legal immigrants have not been sent back , they are returning to their Eu Countries voluntary .Because of the Fear Brexit, and what is to come, and I can't say I blame them .//

And what exactly has that to do with this question? (Answers on the back of a small postage stamp, please).

[gulliver1]

NHS union has warned of catastrophe ahead, as Eu, Doctors and Nurses plan to leave Brexit Britain because their Prospects are looking dim for next year.

[naomi24]

Phew! Lucky you're not here then, Gulliver. You're safe.