How Damaging Could This Be To Britain’s International Reputation?

[ichkeria]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54003483

[SpocksBrain]

theland, they also burned lorry loads of English Lamb whilst their police looked on and did nothing.

[jim360]

Doesn't the Vienna Convention, in effect, override this? Or, at least, it lays out specific times when it will be seen as acceptable and when it won't be.

And, besides, there is presumably plenty that a Sovereign Parliament *can* do, but a lot that it *should not* do. Deliberately and openly breaking International Law is something it should obviously not do.

As to the No Deal part, both the UK and EU have tried at various points to use NO Deal as a threat. It stands to reason that it would be an ineffective threat if it were not the worst possible outcome. All the same, I hope that you're right and I'm wrong about its impact.

[Theland]

All power to Boris and Dominic, and of course Frost, long may they stand up to the bullying from Brussels.

[Togo]

@23.16 & 23.24.
Would that be the same France that made a solemn promise to prevent the illegal invaders for if we gave them 6million quid....and instead apparently used the money to buy them all boats to cross the Channel? We have been lied to for decades and cheated by every new edict that was imposed on us.

[ynnafymmi]

As i am only the last Tory remainer on this site,i wonder to myself what the Thatch would think of Bojo and Spunky.TGL must be turning in her grave at her successors.

[Togo]

This article is worth a read. I read the Martin Howe article in the Telegraph but it is still unfortunately paywalled. This article does though give you an insight that is not possessed by the slavish, and ultimately ruinous to Britain, remainiacs.

//“A single unified internal market is a key block in the constitutional foundations of the United Kingdom. The 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland, and those between Great Britain and Ireland in 1800, abolished all customs duties between the different parts of the United Kingdom. They also declared that the citizens of all parts should be “on the same footing in respect of trade and navigation, and in all treaties with foreign powers”.

The government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the nation in the post-Brexit world. The UK will no longer be subject to the EU treaty rules on the free movement of goods and services or to the EU’s State aid regime. […] It is clearly necessary in an open internal market to have rules which prevent devolved legislatures or local authorities from subsidising local businesses in ways which would unfairly damage businesses in other parts of the country.”//

https://independencedaily.co.uk/from-behind-the-paywall-martin-howe-qc-on-that-bill/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INDEPENDENCE+Daily+Newsletter1

[ichkeria]

“ If I see the rule of law being broken in a way that I find unacceptable then of course I will go"

Yes, the “Justice” Secretary Mr H Dumpty really did say that.

[Togo]

Pity we didn't have a Justice Secretary who was prepared to resign when the WA was slyly slipped under the radar by the treasonous May. You know the initial Agreement which is actually in clear breach of Article Six the 1800 Act of Union with Ireland which states, "No duty or bounty on exportation of produce of one country to the other. All articles the produce of either country shall be imported free from duty."

[Togo]

Another thing to consider as you ponder the whys and wherefores There is no law being broken, despite the scweeming by the remainiacs that mistakenly wails that there is. It is a treaty, not a law, that is being tailored to meet the new realities of an independent Britain from EUSSR rule. We live in a time of constitutional change and during such special constitutional periods, frameworks, laws and regulations are devised that may or may not over-rule existing ones. This is just one such relatively minor one that is being once more hyped and overplayed by the undemocratic remainiacs and only a continuation of the last 3 years of rancid bad faith on their part. I bet that these "lovers of law and order" think precious little about breaking the speed limit, sourcing a bit of class A charlie for their dinner party, or damaging National Monuments during their temper tantrums.

[KARL]

Togo 19.28, ....the 1800 Act of Union with Ireland.....
Is that Northern Ireland, i.e. what Westminster still has links to - surely not the rest or the whole ?

[bhg481]

Regardless of whether or not this would be breaking an international law, I find it very disturbing that a large number of people are happy for us to lower our standards to those of the French and other European nations. I thought that we British cherished our reputation for honesty.

[Togo]

//Togo 19.28, ....the 1800 Act of Union with Ireland.....
Is that Northern Ireland,//

Do you actually know what the United Kingdom is?

"Two acts were passed in 1800 with the same long title, An Act for the Union of Great Britain and Ireland. The short title of the act of the British Parliament is Union with Ireland Act 1800, assigned by the Short Titles Act 1896. The short title of the act of the Irish Parliament is Act of Union (Ireland) 1800, assigned by a 1951 act of the Parliament of Northern Ireland, and hence not effective in the Republic of Ireland, where it was referred to by its long title when repealed in 1962". Wiki.

N. Ireland is still a part of the United Kingdom and protected from the EUSSR land grab by the parts of the Act of Union that is still in effect there.

[Togo]

// lower our standards to those of the French and other European nations.//

As far as I can remember non of these Nations have manoeuvred, manufacture, and then carried out an illegal act of war in collusion with the American Forces and sanctioned further crimes to hide the collusion. ..... Those high standards? The ones that were being defended and justified by the very same pack of hyenas that are now finding a constitutional tweak, that is in Britain's best interests, too much to bear nurse?

[Theland]

The reason we will not have a hard border between N & S Ireland is because of the Good Friday Agreement, which is another way of saying to the PIRA that we give in, you call the shots.
Why not have a hard border and take on the lawbreakers with the Dublin government?

[Togo]

Yes Theland and this very point is in the article that I provided. But no on reads what is available to them. Rather they repeat parrot fashion what has been drummed into them by the EUSSR for decades.

//“But two clauses in the Bill have generated a torrent of foaming indignation. These would allow the government to restrict the so-called “direct effect” of two parts of the Northern Ireland Protocol, which is part of the EU Withdrawal Agreement (WA). The government will also include a similar clause in the Finance Bill in order to prevent the Protocol being weaponised by the EU to require the wholesale imposition of EU tariffs on all goods sent from Great Britain to Northern Ireland.

“That would be flat contrary to the Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK. As such, it would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement that NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.” //

[Theland]

I can't wait to be shut for good of the EUSSR and watch our country flourish, (especially if we take draconian action to the boat people!)

[ichkeria]

“The reason we will not have a hard border between N & S Ireland is because of the Good Friday Agreement“

A propos of nothing but .... not true of course

[ichkeria]

Boris Johnson signed a hurried agreement with the EU last year without fully or possibly even partially understanding the implications for the customs arrangement between Britain and N Ireland, so there was always going to be a reckoning.
That is why I said earlier that this is a mess of his own making. You cannot square the conundrum of the Irish border without some trade-off. The current government seems to have forgotten the concept of trade offs.

[Togo]

I think that Boris and his advisors knew damned well what they were doing. Getting the GE that was a cert for them was the prime aim and would only be "allowed" by the EUSSR gauleiters imbedded in the Houses of Parliament. They knew what it meant alright and always planned to nip it in the bud when the time was ripe. The covid panic and distraction delayed that step........until now. The false circle is indeed squared, we have treaties that we fall back on, the new and unused treaties can be binned and we all raise a glass to Bill Cash. Oooraahhh.

[Togo]

// The problem is political not legal: the failure of the EU to negotiate in good faith the future relationship, with the result that, absent an agreement, NI becomes by default a gateway for EU law into GB, unless Parliament takes preemptive action.//

Sir Christopher Meyer, the highly-respected former British ambassador to the United States and to Germany.