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Is Hamilton Turning Too Political?
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// He can do what he likes. // no he can't. https://
09:24 Mon 14th Sep 2020
//He can do what he likes. Why should he listen to you? Or anybody else, for that matter.//
No he can’t. He doesn’t have to listen to us but he does have to pay heed to his employers. He is paid very handsomely to represent Mercedes and their sponsors and his appearance is very carefully orchestrated. Note the numerous changes of caps, watches, etc. To do what he did flies in the face of all that. He’s gained the agreement from the F1 people to have the “taking the knee” performance before every race. He has no permission to make personal statements from the podium.
I am an avid supporter of Lewis but was very disappointed with his display on the podium yesterday. He has strong views on the issue and that’s his prerogative but he should not take advantage of the position he is in which has been facilitated by Mercedes and their sponsors. I don’t think the FIA will need to become involved. The expression on Toto Woolf’s face when the podium ceremony was in progress said it all for me. He was clearly very unhappy. Hopefully some quiet words will restore some decorum.
// The cops who shot unarmed Breonna Taylor should be prosecuted? Well, regardless of what you feel about Hamilton, he's not wrong in this instance.//
Neither he, you nor we know the circumstances of the incident. We’ve seen a few clips on the telly. But even if Lewis is correct, my points above remain.
No he can’t. He doesn’t have to listen to us but he does have to pay heed to his employers. He is paid very handsomely to represent Mercedes and their sponsors and his appearance is very carefully orchestrated. Note the numerous changes of caps, watches, etc. To do what he did flies in the face of all that. He’s gained the agreement from the F1 people to have the “taking the knee” performance before every race. He has no permission to make personal statements from the podium.
I am an avid supporter of Lewis but was very disappointed with his display on the podium yesterday. He has strong views on the issue and that’s his prerogative but he should not take advantage of the position he is in which has been facilitated by Mercedes and their sponsors. I don’t think the FIA will need to become involved. The expression on Toto Woolf’s face when the podium ceremony was in progress said it all for me. He was clearly very unhappy. Hopefully some quiet words will restore some decorum.
// The cops who shot unarmed Breonna Taylor should be prosecuted? Well, regardless of what you feel about Hamilton, he's not wrong in this instance.//
Neither he, you nor we know the circumstances of the incident. We’ve seen a few clips on the telly. But even if Lewis is correct, my points above remain.
2 cops, male and female, were sat in their car in Compton when they were ambushed and shot last night. (by a midget, I think)
Rushed to Hospital for, hopefully, lifesaving operations.
A gang of black protestors gathered outside baying for their deaths.
I don't know how anyone can support these sub-human scum.
Rushed to Hospital for, hopefully, lifesaving operations.
A gang of black protestors gathered outside baying for their deaths.
I don't know how anyone can support these sub-human scum.
//Neither he, you nor we know the circumstances of the incident. We’ve seen a few clips on the telly//
I'm sure, like me, you've read the report of the incident Judge. There definitely seems enough evidence to bring them to trial. I get the cop was injured and scared, but this.is.when their training should kick in, not shooting blindly at anything that moves.
I'm sure, like me, you've read the report of the incident Judge. There definitely seems enough evidence to bring them to trial. I get the cop was injured and scared, but this.is.when their training should kick in, not shooting blindly at anything that moves.
"sports people rightly complain when politics gets involved in sport, remember the 1980 Olympics? So they should return the favour by staying out of politics."
I don't think, however, that you can as a general principle, separate sport and politics. It wasn't only the 1980 Olympics of course, but 1976 and 1984. What made 1980 difficult was that it was "us" doing the boycotting, and while most people condemned the invasion of Afghanistan they didn't want a boycott interfering with something they considered had nothing to do with it (the Soviet Union had been murdering and invading people for years and no one had said a thing so there was a lot of justification for that line) .
But it's naive to expect sport and politics not to collide. It's inevitable. It's just that we have different opinions about what causes and actions are appropriate. Supporters of BATE Borisov in Belarus wearing anti-Lukasheno t-shirts and disrupting a match: that's good probably.
BLM folk holding up play in the cricket: bad.
I don't think, however, that you can as a general principle, separate sport and politics. It wasn't only the 1980 Olympics of course, but 1976 and 1984. What made 1980 difficult was that it was "us" doing the boycotting, and while most people condemned the invasion of Afghanistan they didn't want a boycott interfering with something they considered had nothing to do with it (the Soviet Union had been murdering and invading people for years and no one had said a thing so there was a lot of justification for that line) .
But it's naive to expect sport and politics not to collide. It's inevitable. It's just that we have different opinions about what causes and actions are appropriate. Supporters of BATE Borisov in Belarus wearing anti-Lukasheno t-shirts and disrupting a match: that's good probably.
BLM folk holding up play in the cricket: bad.
//Actually, I think Hamilton and even Naomi Osaka with her face masks are doing a good job in raising awareness in the injustices black people have suffered. We need more action !!!!//
Presumably you find it acceptable only if it is 'raising awareness' re the injustices balck people have suffered, no-one else hsuff evaered injustices, have they?
Surely promoting the interests of one group according to their skin colour is discriminatory.
Still an amazing drive though and what a race!
Presumably you find it acceptable only if it is 'raising awareness' re the injustices balck people have suffered, no-one else hsuff evaered injustices, have they?
Surely promoting the interests of one group according to their skin colour is discriminatory.
Still an amazing drive though and what a race!
//Presumably you find it acceptable only if it is 'raising awareness' re the injustices balck people have suffered, no-one else hsuff evaered injustices, have they?
Surely promoting the interests of one group according to their skin colour is discriminatory//
By that logic, nobody should support any cause if they can't support all causes.
It's like telling Save The Children to save adults as well.
Surely promoting the interests of one group according to their skin colour is discriminatory//
By that logic, nobody should support any cause if they can't support all causes.
It's like telling Save The Children to save adults as well.
Better start worrying then ZM :-)
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\\The cops who shot unarmed Breonna Taylor should be prosecuted? Well, regardless of what you feel about Hamilton, he's not wrong in this instance. Breonna's murder was one of the worst instances of police incompetence in recent times. The cop shot several rounds blindly into rhe apartment. It was fortunate there were no kids involved.//
They were being shot at and returned fire.
\\The cops who shot unarmed Breonna Taylor should be prosecuted? Well, regardless of what you feel about Hamilton, he's not wrong in this instance. Breonna's murder was one of the worst instances of police incompetence in recent times. The cop shot several rounds blindly into rhe apartment. It was fortunate there were no kids involved.//
They were being shot at and returned fire.
Perhaps he could have done what Naomi Osaka did at the US Open tennis.
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Less confrontational but still gets the message across.
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Less confrontational but still gets the message across.
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